my first post w/pics.. DUW

they couldve made ALOT more though getting us to buy a second set-up.. the "kit" we purchased for savanna as we knew a tall 30gal wasnt fit for her.. so we figured start over and fresh and get something that had everything, the uvb bulb and lamp were part of it.. the light fixtures we had were old and the bulbs had been thrown out 3yrs ago. he knew i would be coming back for the male as a surprise for my husband.. when i went to pick him up i asked him and as i said previously spoke to him about keeping them together and if she would hurt him, visa versa, exc. its very frustrating :mad:

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Originally Posted by AshleyB

im very saddened that one of my first posts resulted in so much negative attention.. we kept columbian babys together for many months several years ago just fine, not knowing they couldn't be together. I hope this was a sore subject of posts and that perhaps i can get a start off on a better foot than this.

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It is a bit of a sore subject. So many people come in here and argue that they were told it's all right to house their babies together. And even after we point them in the right direction---and give them source after source---they tell us we're the ones that are wrong and don't change.

Do not doubt... almost everyone here wants to health of the animal first and foremost. We just want to help---and sometimes get rather passionate about it.

Hey, by the way... WELCOME TO THE FORUMS! :hug:

In my opinion, the temps are something that need to be tightly controlled, not "somewhere in the 90's" or "in the high 70's" (which is too low anyway!).

I'm seriously wondering why you won't tell anyone the name of your breeder. If I ever sell a snake, I would have no problem with my name being released as the seller, and I have no problem telling anyone where each of my snakes came from. There is no "right to privacy" after a sale.

I totally understand the passion and good intentions,there are a few things that im knowledable about and very passionate, however a few things did more or less come on strong, especially concidering i dont feel as though i argued the fact, i was really whole heartedly asking opinion as i too have my snakes best intrest at heart. thanks for the welcome. :)

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Originally Posted by SarahMB

In my opinion, the temps are something that need to be tightly controlled, not "somewhere in the 90's" or "in the high 70's" (which is too low anyway!).

I'm seriously wondering why you won't tell anyone the name of your breeder. If I ever sell a snake, I would have no problem with my name being released as the seller, and I have no problem telling anyone where each of my snakes came from. There is no "right to privacy" after a sale.

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ok can we please leave this one alone then.. i am choosing to not release his name. ive give the place of purchase and to me thats enough, he may not care but its my prefrance and explained my reasoning already.

im asking, is it dangerous to their health to have them outside? the temps are FAR WARMER outside then inside, i could and would put a midnight heat lamp on them at night if nessesary to keep them warm enough. and somewhere is what it is down here.. during the summer its usually about 95 outside at high heat, high 80s low 90s during the rest of the day. i could get temp gages to put in their enclosures as well to more closely watch. At this point im wondering if they would be better off outside at this point concidering the temps. please lets leave the breeder/seller/"pet store" owner/ whatever you choose to call him alone.

I know it's hard to get conflicting information. The knowledge I walked out of PetCo with after the purchase of my first snake... was... worthless. After coming here, I basically learned that everything was pretty much opposite. They told me to drop the temperatures at night (don't!), they told me to feed in a separate enclosure (unneccessary!), and that 2 snakes of similar size can be housed together (no!).

I was extremely frustrated at first, but ultimately so happy that I could find this forum and learn from true hobbyists and breeders the right things to do, and WHY.

Oh, and I personally would NOT keep them outside. There's too much room for huge temperature fluctuations. Get an under tank heating pad and get the temps up properly, with the enclosures in the house.

I don't think anyone's pointed in the direction of the caresheet here:

http://ball-pythons.net/modules.php?...warticle&id=59

Temps and humidity need to be carefully monitored. An Accurite thermometer (found at your local Wal-mart) will do the trick for both, and it's fairly cheap. A little temp variation won't hurt anything---it does get a little cooler at night---but try to keep the temps as steady as possible. (Is it a red heat light? You can use a red light all day and all night because they don't pick up the red... it won't bother them).

Putting the kids outside, it'll be too hard to keep their temps steady... and hard on the humidity, too. Too much moisture can be just as bad as not enough for BPs. They can develop skin problems or a respiratory infection (not fun!). Also, heat lamps suck out humidity... so you may have to cover part of the tank with a damp towel, or switch out the lamp for an undertank heater to keep the humidity steady.

Yes, it is very dangerous to a snake's health to let it's temps fluctuate with little control. It's something that you need to know without a doubt, not check on when it comes to mind.

UGH, at this point it would be easier to just have one grrrr :mad: I cannot believe we have gotten into this mess, not even a week into having him. guess ill be picking up TWO red bulbs and another entire set up for caution.. damn good thing i like him! i have NO CLUE where were going to put a second tank without kicking them outside.

IM ASKING INNOCENTLY, PLEASE NO FLAMING:
why cant they be outside if thats kinda where they would be living anyway? I would still maintain their heat at night. so long as i use a dry (not like those blocks you get wet) bedding wouldn't that help keep the humidity down? i know it would be WAY TOO HOT with the more wet bedding. someone please help.. i printed those care sheets and will read when i get off work which is where i am now. i also do plan to get the thermometers as well so i can at least moniter them. the children would be older by the time winter rolls around and we could keep them indoors for our "winter"

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Why cant they be outside if thats kinda where they would be living anyway?

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Because you don't live in Africa near a termite mound. :D