Hog-Dogging...

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Originally Posted by jeffnme

I had that for dinra last night!

but it was Zataran's.


:giggle:

and I used chicken. prepackaged of course.

:)

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What kind of southern girl are you..No need to answer, I know already! :D

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

And yet your trying to give advice to someone that is. See the hunter carries a gun to kill the hog so the dog(s) don't have to hold the animal just get it to quit running long enough for me to get there.

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Admittedly I'm not in as good of a position to discuss the matter as you seem to be, as i've never done it.

I have, however, read every piece of text i could find about the species/breeds of animals i keep, and in more than one place i've heard described the technique i shared with you.

I don't know if it's better or worse. I do know that pitties are working dogs, and i guess, if i were to use the baiting sort of technique, i'd want one on my side.

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Originally Posted by Morphie

I have, however, read every piece of text i could find about the species/breeds of animals i keep, and in more than one place i've heard described the technique i shared with you.

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I guess that is one problem that 'hunters' face.....different methods for the same form of hunting.

People would be more content with banning hunting with dogs because of the method you described, yet with the method that Ed and I were talking of I really don't see any issues. However, if legislation were passed it would probably be for the general "hunting with dogs" and all would be banned.

Same goes for stuff we see in the reptile community. So many places want to put a ban/licensing on ALL snakes/lizards when only one are two are the issue.

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Originally Posted by Morphie

Admittedly I'm not in as good of a position to discuss the matter as you seem to be, as i've never done it.

I have, however, read every piece of text i could find about the species/breeds of animals i keep, and in more than one place i've heard described the technique i shared with you.

I don't know if it's better or worse. I do know that pitties are working dogs, and i guess, if i were to use the baiting sort of technique, i'd want one on my side.

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Agreed pits do make fine hog dogs. But the people that use them lack the experience in hunting to not. Its like using wrecking ball to drive a nail. Yea it'll do it all day every day. But its not necessarily the best method.

Around here, people who use pigs to bait their pits do so to train the dogs in preparation for entering the pit. They do that before the pit can go in on the chain, got to get the dog used to attacking and what not. When I think of hogs and dogs in the same sentence I normally think of dog fighting, that's all I've ever seen dogs and pigs together for.

Of course that clip seemed like it took place in some suburbs or rural area, but in the city if I see some pigs in somebody backyards, I can almost guarantee they also have a collection of pits

My uncle has used Hog Dogs in the past(I assume some of my cousins still do). The dog does sometimes "hold" the pig if necessary. Training was done exactly as mentioned above with one experianced dog 'training' the next. Dogs holding a pig only grab it to keep it from running off, and can be called off by the owner. Hogs are not shot with a dog on them.
Dogs owned by my uncle were not "fought" in a pen with a caged pig.
I think personally that some folks thought it would be 'cool' to stage a pig/dog fight to show off the 'gameness' of their hog dog, and it's degenerated to the currant hog/dog fighting which serves no purpose whatsoever in my opinion.
The Hog-Dog fights are no better than pit fighting or bear baiting in cruelty IMO. Hog dogs have a place in hunting, and hunting pigs for food is no more wrong to me than killing a captive pig to eat it. As long as it's done humanely, not dropping a feral pig into a pen to be gnawed at for hours for the entertainment of a crowd.