Is anyone breeding for temperament?

QUICK!! Into the freezer with them!!

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Originally Posted by Uncle Festae

You just described almost every single BP hatchling I've seen.....

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I did see a group of imports in a pet store once where most of them where nippy but other than that (even including other groups of imports) the nippy ones have been the exception rather than the rule. I know in the clutches I've hatched most never strike but there have been a few from time to time that do consistently show attitude. I didn't freeze any of them but did warn potential buyer.

Maybe there are geographic pools of ill tempered ball pythons. I know with bull snakes all the ones I caught at one location as a kid tamed quickly but I never saw a nice one from any other location.

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

That's a myth about spiders ... I have a large number of them here and while many of them have great personalities, not all of them do. ;)

-adam

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My Spider is a huge explorer; you can ask Ed Clark who sold him to me; he will NOT sit still for pics! He's good for about 5 seconds after removing him from his tub; after that it's a "grab that snake before he gets under the couch!!!" experience. I think that their odd head markings make Spiders look like they're smiling, which makes people think they're "friendly." :)

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Wow, this discussion is bordering on ridiculous...

I can see the kingsnake ad now....



:P

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You've got me dying with laughter here, man. :D

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Originally Posted by RandyRemington

I did see a group of imports in a pet store once where most of them where nippy but other than that (even including other groups of imports) the nippy ones have been the exception rather than the rule. I know in the clutches I've hatched most never strike but there have been a few from time to time that do consistently show attitude. I didn't freeze any of them but did warn potential buyer.

Maybe there are geographic pools of ill tempered ball pythons. I know with bull snakes all the ones I caught at one location as a kid tamed quickly but I never saw a nice one from any other location.

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imo, most imports/wc are stressed out! alot dehydrated, skinny and not setup correctly.
i would expect them to be "nippy"

ps, if balls get any more laid back, we could just use them for decoration around the house.



vaughn

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

My Spider is a huge explorer; you can ask Ed Clark

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I'm sure he is ... but one spiders behavior certainly does not describe every single spider ever produced ... these animals are all individuals.

As far as snakes "smiling" ... not something that ever occurred to me.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

As far as snakes "smiling" ... not something that ever occurred to me.

-adam

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Well heck sure they do Adam! They other day when our snakes were all out watching their afternoon soap operas, well Malachi cracked off this off color comment and they all just simply ROARED with laughter! :P

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I'm sure he is ... but one spiders behavior certainly does not describe every single spider ever produced ... these animals are all individuals.

As far as snakes "smiling" ... not something that ever occurred to me.

-adam

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Not at all; I would never generalize about it. I was mainly saying that to counter the "spiders are all friendly and nicey" rumor. Mine just wants to not sit still. He is about as friendly as a frightened rabbit, and I don't handle him like a "pet" snake.
The "smile" is more noticible to me on my pastel.. note the teardrop markings that give him a "cheeky" look: of course, i know that they are emotionless little reptiles and can't smile, but dang it if it doesn't look like he is wearing one. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...g?t=1171128491