A few mite questions

Here's some great threads on the same topic... there from another forum but still...some good info!

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

I can think of one...I hear drinking some herbal teas in excess can cause a lack of "dexterity."

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Well that and wearing yourself out watching 24 and playing Xbox ... I see your point. :sweeet:

-adam

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

Here's some great threads on the same topic... there from another forum but still...some good info!

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Straight from the site rules ...

"external links While we do allow linking to other sources, please do so only if the information is not already available here at BPNet and only for the purposes of promoting reasonable and appropriate discussion."

Lots of threads on this very site about Provent -a- Mite and mite treatments, I think your post might be a violation of the sites rules?

-adam

Well it won't allow me to edit the post so I'll go ahead and sum things up...


pam is like $20 a can and the eqate bedding spray is only $4 a can..equate and pam are have the same ingredients so your basicly getting thee same product alot cheaper..you can get equate bedding spray at almost every walmart...

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

pam is like $20 a can and the eqate bedding spray is only $4 a can..equate and pam are have the same ingredients so your basicly getting thee same product alot cheaper..you can get equate bedding spray at almost every walmart...

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Not trying be mean or start drama...but you don't know what you're talking about.

While that Equate stuff and PAM might be permethrin-based insecticides...there are so many different types of permethrins out there...some are relatively safe for reptiles when used properly and others are deadly.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Not trying be mean or start drama...but you don't know what you're talking about.

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I actually do... when used properly it's fine...

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

I actually do... when used properly it's fine...

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Can you elaborate? I'm sure that sharing your vast experience with ball pythons and their parasites would be educational to all of us.

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

I actually do... when used properly it's fine...

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And when the margin of error between being mixed properly and being mixed into something that is dangerous to your animals is as minute as it is in this case, it's not something that should be advocated as a mite remedy for beginners in my opinion ... and I'm quite positive that I know what I'm talking about ... I've gotten enough phone calls in the middle of the night from ball python owners who's snakes were writhing around on their backs after being sprayed with homemade permethrin solutions to always recommend PAM unless the person has a ton of experience.

It never ceases to amaze me how for some people a few dollars is enough to want them to take short cuts and risk the health and life of a living creature.

-adam

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Can you elaborate? I'm sure that sharing your vast experience with ball pythons and their parasites would be educational to all of us.

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I have only had mites one time... I used Pam for that one time and it worked great but recently I have talked to a few differen't breeders and they have told me not to waste the money because it works just as good for literally a tenth of the price. It's the same exact thing, except one is called PAM and cost $20.00 and one is called Equate and cost $3.00!

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

And when the margin of error between being mixed properly and being mixed into something that is dangerous to your animals is as minute as it is in this case, it's not something that should be advocated as a mite remedy for beginners in my opinion ... and I'm quite positive that I know what I'm talking about ... I've gotten enough phone calls in the middle of the night from ball python owners who's snakes were writhing around on their backs after being sprayed with homemade permethrin solutions to always recommend PAM unless the person has a ton of experience.

It never ceases to amaze me how for some people a few dollars is enough to want them to take short cuts and risk the health and life of a living creature.

-adam

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Adam, it's not about taking shortcuts or even mixing solutions. I'm talking about going to walmart and paying 3 dollars for the same can that you recommend that people buy that cost $20.

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Guys, I don't feel like a drawn out argument over this. I simply posted that there are alternatives to PAM, I’ll use Equate as a cheaper version of PAM, used exactly like PAM. I do not doubt that their are similar products out there that are unsafe, especially when misused as is PAM itself is misused. I am not pushing any specific product, all I am posting is an alternative as Ed Clark did with Nix. Which is also a good treatment as I've read if used properly.



No need to get personal or offensive, anyone interested can search countless threads on PAM, Equate and other Mite treatments and preventions.



Have a nice day!