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Got the fish tank!

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  • 01-18-2007, 01:47 AM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Got the fish tank!
    they are soooooooo cute!
  • 01-18-2007, 08:38 AM
    Ginevive
    Re: Got the fish tank!
    Seems to me that they were already adapted to the dirty water.. they got shocked by the new waters' chlorine level and maybe even a drastic pH change. Maybe they just got sick of cleaning the tank and wanted to unload it? I can post more a little later when I get off work.. gotta love working 50 hours a week.. really great for your social/internet life! :( :( :(
  • 01-18-2007, 09:19 AM
    Aric
    Re: Got the fish tank!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ

    Yeps thats it:)
  • 01-19-2007, 10:44 AM
    Aric
    Re: Got the fish tank!
    ok here are a couple quick pics of the Gold Gourami and the Pearl Gourami.
    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...amiResized.jpg
    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...amiResized.jpg

    We also got 2 blue paradise gouramis and one blue gourami yesterday after talking to the people at our local (and did I saw AWSOME) fish shop. They too believe the fish died from the clean water overload, they say since we have had it running for a couple days it would be ok to add a couple more fish.

    Never knew trying to take pictures of fish would be so hard:cool:.
  • 01-19-2007, 12:13 PM
    Laooda
    Re: Got the fish tank!
    Aric,

    This is a touchy subject... There are so many successful ways to keep fish, I was tough the slow approach... I never would have added more fish to a tank that was so recently moved. Did these employees test your water? All the good aquatic stores here will test your water for you, or teach you to do it properly. This is the tricky thing... Because your tank is "stirred up" chemically, it's going to haft to recycle/balance out. This usually takes 4-8 weeks with fresh water, depending how many fish you keep... and the amount of food your feeding. MOST IMPORTANT: DO NOT OVER FEED YOUR FISH!!! Even the back of the fish food will have you usually feeding 2-3 x too much. Nothing will spike your ammonia like excess food. Even if your tank levels read good... "Cycled" that doesn't mean your levels aren't about to-or in the middle of, shooting through the roof. They spike in this order.... Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates, PH levels out.... ***Disclaimer: I have not been on a fish kick in years, so if any of this is not correct, be kind! lol *** These things must happen to get your tank established. The rub is getting everything to spike without hitting toxic levels. This is what's throwing a red flag up with your tank for me... I think you might have too many fish in an unestablished tank. A healthy established fresh water tank can support 1 inch of fish per gallon. But..... that's after it's cycled etc... I would get a GOOD test kit.. Aquarium Farms has a good one... (I prefer the liquid to the strips) and watch it close. If you start getting "Toxic" on a level you'll need to do small partial water changes. (With your gravel vac. getting clean water off the top does not help... you gotta get to the sludge)....... I like Prime as a dechlor. because it tackle Nitrites/Nitrates as well, but that's for after you get established. Novaqua is ROCKIN good stuff too... I'm just worried your setting up for a "CRASH".... And there's nothing worse than walking in to a tank full of dead fishies.... :(

    Gosh... did I type your eyes off or what!?!? Hope some of this helps ?!?!?:confused: L
  • 01-19-2007, 07:22 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Got the fish tank!
    Awesome gouramis; they are some of the coolest and most underrated fish in my opinion. Yes, I need to agree, photographing fish is Hard.. I end up taking 60 pics and keeping about 5 that look good..
    I don't know if I would have added more fish personally.. how are they doing though? I agree that a good test kit is a must-have; I really believe that many who fail at fishkeeping try to overload their tank too fast..
    I hope that the gouramis make it though; on a positive note, I have seen a tank that had had a community-tank setup with gouramis, tetras, etc. and the tank had crashed badly; it was in an abandoned house that Mark's company bought, and had been neglected for weeks; the gouramis were the survivors out of the whole thing!
  • 01-19-2007, 07:29 PM
    Aric
    Re: Got the fish tank!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ginevive
    Awesome gouramis; they are some of the coolest and most underrated fish in my opinion. Yes, I need to agree, photographing fish is Hard.. I end up taking 60 pics and keeping about 5 that look good..
    I don't know if I would have added more fish personally.. how are they doing though? I agree that a good test kit is a must-have; I really believe that many who fail at fishkeeping try to overload their tank too fast..
    I hope that the gouramis make it though; on a positive note, I have seen a tank that had had a community-tank setup with gouramis, tetras, etc. and the tank had crashed badly; it was in an abandoned house that Mark's company bought, and had been neglected for weeks; the gouramis were the survivors out of the whole thing!

    Yeah im falling in love with the gouramis, ive got another 20 gallon that im going to get some more gouramis and maybe some mollies for it (once everything is ready to go). I know, adding the fish was probably no the best idea but I guess its one of those newbie things people do. You just see the fish and have to have it. Never again will this happen. The new ones are actually doing pretty well, they are getting chased around alot by the gold gourami but other than that they are good. The tank came with a test kit, but I think its may be a little old as when I tried to use it nothing really worked:oops:. Ive got some pics of a few of the fish that needs to be resized, then I will post:).
  • 01-19-2007, 07:39 PM
    Aric
    Re: Got the fish tank!
  • 01-19-2007, 08:03 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Got the fish tank!
    Cool; a few other gouramis that I have are the honey gourami, and the red dwarf. I think that the dwarves in particular would be good for a 10g tank; maybe a pair. I have noticed that they are not as aggressive as the larger ones.. if you get a very large tank, look into a Giant Gourami! Now those are some oddball fish!!
  • 01-19-2007, 08:06 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Got the fish tank!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ginevive
    Seems to me that they were already adapted to the dirty water.. they got shocked by the new waters' chlorine level and maybe even a drastic pH change.


    this is a really good point. when water changes are not done... the pH level will lower. so although clean water won't harm fish... the drastic change in pH could kill them.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Laooda
    This is a touchy subject... There are so many successful ways to keep fish

    Soooo true!!!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Laooda
    Because your tank is "stirred up" chemically, it's going to haft to recycle/balance out. This usually takes 4-8 weeks with fresh water, depending how many fish you keep... and the amount of food your feeding.

    i've never heard of this. once a tank is cycled... (the bacteria usually live in the gravel and inside the filter as well as on the plants and lastly some in the water (although only minor amounts are actually in the water). In a new tank... brand new or a completely cleaned tank (gravel washed etc) then a cycle takes approx 6 weeks to complete depending on the amount of fish you have to cycle your tank.



    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Laooda
    MOST IMPORTANT: DO NOT OVER FEED YOUR FISH!!!

    rule of thumb... feed your fish and sit and watch them. feed them as much as they can eat within 3-5 minutes. i prefer closer to 3 minutes.
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