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  • 12-29-2006, 08:01 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Kaplan to give speech on reptiles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS
    What the Hell made you bring that up?!?! You Feel Oppressed or something?

    He was probably responding to this, misinterpreting Adam to mean racial minority

    Quote:

    In the entire history of the United States there has never been a single compromise between the government and any minority group that has worked out well for the minority
    when in fact, I believe Adam was talking about minority in general - such as the reptile community is a minority in this country.
  • 12-29-2006, 08:07 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Kaplan to give speech on reptiles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    In the entire history of the United States there has never been a single compromise between the government and any minority group that has worked out well for the minority ... fight for your rights as an American to keep what you want, where you want!

    -adam

    Adam,i totaly agree :rockon:
  • 12-29-2006, 08:13 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: Kaplan to give speech on reptiles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet
    He was probably responding to this, misinterpreting Adam to mean racial minority



    when in fact, I believe Adam was talking about minority in general - such as the reptile community is a minority in this country.

    Thats exactly what I thought Adam meant..
  • 12-29-2006, 10:17 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Kaplan to give speech on reptiles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WTHbbqSnake
    I guess you can only know how that feels once an animal has mauled an killed your child or family member.

    Using that logic, no one should be allowed to own a car because drunk drivers kill peoples children and family members every day in this country.

    You should really read the constitution ... it's probably one of the most powerful and emotionally moving documents ever written ... I think it would change your view on what men smarter than you and I believed freedom to be.

    -adam
  • 12-29-2006, 10:55 PM
    Broseph
    Re: Kaplan to give speech on reptiles
    The way I feel is that the only way to stop a ban is to lobby against it, but politics comes down to money, so unless your party (reptile enthuseist) have alot of money to use on this the bans will happen if they want them to. which sucks. about pitbulls- i personally will never own one or have my kids anywhere near one, i've now people that own them and everyone always said how mild mannered they are but some have snapped. the pitbull was breed into such, to be aggresive that was instilled in them yes by man but none the less even the mild mannered pit can snap. ive read and watch alot about these animals to come to that conculsion, but thats just MY opinion.

    i have not been into keeping snake that long to say anything about dangerous breeds, i as a newbiee to the hobby would think of my own limition on keeping them before i get a retic or a venemos breed, but thats just me.
  • 12-29-2006, 11:12 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Kaplan to give speech on reptiles
    Quote:

    I agree with you there, of course. Being an African American. But again, views will conflict. Noone has the right to keep what they want. And I think there should be a line drawn that says what you can and can't keep. I do not want my kids (if I had any) playing in an area where I know someone is keeping a dangerous animal as a pet. I guess you can only know how that feels once an animal has mauled an killed your child or family member.
    You can not pass knee jerk legislation in order to protect stupid people from themselves. All that is accomplished by this is to penalize responsible law abiding citizens. The truely stupid will continue to find new and unusual ways to try removing themselves from the gene pool.

    Legislation should be passed in answer to real, not perceived, needs and should be based on actual statistics and hard data. Too often it seems to be based on the perceptions and fears of the unknowledgeable.

    When you look at actual numbers, keeping reptiles is far far less dangerous then other recreational pastimes like skiing, bicycling, jogging... In fact many sports are probabaly far more dangerous then even keeping a large retic.

    Mark
  • 12-29-2006, 11:13 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Kaplan to give speech on reptiles
    http://www.pijac.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1

    If you're interested in helping "fight the power".

    DO WORK!

    -adam
  • 12-29-2006, 11:20 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Kaplan to give speech on reptiles
    Quote:

    You should really read the constitution ... it's probably one of the most powerful and emotionally moving documents ever written ... I think it would change your view on what men smarter than you and I believed freedom to be.
    Just in case anyone is wondering, here is a link to it.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/index.html
  • 12-30-2006, 02:35 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Kaplan to give speech on reptiles
    We need more herp keepers to get into politica, plain and simple. Fighting the government doesn't get you anywhere these days; now, get into the government, become it.. there you go.
    I have said it before.. just like guns, if you completely ban anything (herps, marijuana, pink high heels, Orbit gum, trapper keepers, anything) it will be strictly in the hands of the criminals.
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