Concern for the site

Judy,


I absolutely agree, and I was not targeting the mods when I posted. I was targeting everyone else. :D

I think you all do a good job.

It is just the topics, the subjects, and those who need to be nicer, or not post at all.

Nothing you all can control, but we as individuals can.

We all started out as newbies at one point or another.

Just a friendly reminder.

Just some of my thoughts in light of recent happenings on the site.

Mods right now just seem to arbitrarily decide which threads stay and which threads go, or which posts in each thread go or stay (kingsnake anyone? hello!). In some of these threads, no violations of the TOS take place, yet they are still locked. The justification for this is that the threads aren't "helpful" or "positive"...well, I can understand locking threads in the information forums, but threads in the off-topic area aren't required to be helpful or substantive to begin with (they can be, but don't have to be).

I feel like if I'm a contributing member on this site overall, its unfair when topics I choose to follow are arbitrarily locked.

If the Admin has such a problem with this type of stuff, revise the TOS and eliminate the ambiguity. Otherwise, stop locking or editing threads that don't violate the TOS you have in place.

I appreciate your concern, however the last thread that I locked was in violation of our TOS:

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No cursing, threats, hate speech, or speech intended to cause or further a "flame war" or personal vendetta

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Unless you're referring to another thread, then I'm sure the mods would be happy to review and discuss your concerns.

The reason why many of these threads get locked is to prevent a BOI type of free-for-all atmosphere. This forum is used to discuss Ball Pythons and other related topics in a family friendly atmosphere. The previously locked threads were in violation of the TOS in addition to creating a hostile environment and not exactly the friendly, helpful forum we're trying to maintain.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Just some of my thoughts in light of recent happenings on the site.

Mods right now just seem to arbitrarily decide which threads stay and which threads go, or which posts in each thread go or stay (kingsnake anyone? hello!). In some of these threads, no violations of the TOS take place, yet they are still locked. The justification for this is that the threads aren't "helpful" or "positive"...well, I can understand locking threads in the information forums, but threads in the off-topic area aren't required to be helpful or substantive to begin with (they can be, but don't have to be).

I feel like if I'm a contributing member on this site overall, its unfair when topics I choose to follow are arbitrarily locked.

If the Admin has such a problem with this type of stuff, revise the TOS and eliminate the ambiguity. Otherwise, stop locking or editing threads that don't violate the TOS you have in place.

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Gee, has it been 3 mos already???

Seems this comes up in one form or another about every three months or so.
I know I personally started one about 6 mos ago.

I have grown to just deal with it like I do people in the "real world" or at work.
I check it out and if it is going south then I move on. Sometimes it seems there is some bickering back and forth and some personal vendettas ( sp ) or scores going on but all in all this is a rock solid site w/ a wealth of info for not just the newbie but I think people of all exper. levels.
None of us know everything and we can all learn something new everyday.

This site has been growing and evolving from day one and it will continue to be fine because there is a large core of members, old and new, who won't settle for anything less, thank God.

We just have to keep open minds and sometimes open hearts.

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Originally Posted by xdeus

I appreciate your concern, however the last thread that I locked was in violation of our TOS:



Unless you're referring to another thread, then I'm sure the mods would be happy to review and discuss your concerns.

The reason why many of these threads get locked is to prevent a BOI type of free-for-all atmosphere. This forum is used to discuss Ball Pythons and other related topics in a family friendly atmosphere. The previously locked threads were in violation of the TOS in addition to creating a hostile environment and not exactly the friendly, helpful forum we're trying to maintain.

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Thanks for the reply, and for clearing up your justification for removing those threads. I care about this board just as much as anyone else does, so my next question is this: at what point do the mods actually do something about those who continuously post in a manner that stirs up trouble? The latest person who seems to be the common denominator in every bit of recent drama clearly has an agenda and has taken stabs, in blatant and subtle ways. Perhaps the cycle-o-drama would stop if the admins put some backbone behind their preaching.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

I feel like if I'm a contributing member on this site overall, its unfair when topics I choose to follow are arbitrarily locked.

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I feel like if I'm a contributing member on this site overall, its unfair when topics I choose to follow are arbitrarily run into the ground because some members can't control themselves enough to leave their own personal conflicts with other members out of the threads.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

The latest person who seems to be the common denominator in every bit of recent drama clearly has an agenda and has taken stabs, in blatant and subtle ways. Perhaps the cycle-o-drama would stop if the admins put some backbone behind their preaching.

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A private communication detailing exactly what you'd have us do would be greatly appreciated. Any such suggestions always are. Should we ban a member simply because they don't "get along" with some other member? Wouldn't that make us more like Kingsnake than locking a few troublesome threads?

If there's some magic wand we can wave to make everyone get along and never poke at each other with sharp sticks...while maintaining a fair and just place for everyone who comes here....please let me know what the secret is. I think we have the "backbone" to be JUST...rather than bowing to public pressure to kick an unpopular member off the forum.

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

I feel like if I'm a contributing member on this site overall, its unfair when topics I choose to follow are arbitrarily run into the ground because some members can't control themselves enough to leave their own personal conflicts with other members out of the threads.

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Then skim past the nonsense and contribute something positive? I do it in other threads all the time, I mean, look at any thread Jamie is a part of :P Making comments about people acting childish (just an example I can recall) doesn't do much to help things either...just fuels the fire...and boom...your topic is further down the crapper.

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

I feel like if I'm a contributing member on this site overall, its unfair when topics I choose to follow are arbitrarily run into the ground because some members can't control themselves enough to leave their own personal conflicts with other members out of the threads.

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I KNOW that I'm a contributing member to this site and I think that the expectation that I should take the "high ground" while some little pee on posts smilies urinating on my banner is a little rediculous. He's being manipulated by someone that has been banned and that banned person is effecting the site now more than they ever did while they were allowed to post here.

The personal conflict is not mine by any means ... I could not care less ... but I refuse to lay down and pretend like nothing is going on or hope that it just "goes away" ... not my style and in the 2 1/2 years that I've been posting on this site it never has been my style.

Take out the trash ... problem solved.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I KNOW that I'm a contributing member to this site and I think that the expectation that I should take the "high ground" while some little pee on posts smilies urinating on my banner is a little rediculous. He's being manipulated by someone that has been banned and that banned person is effecting the site now more than they ever did while they were allowed to post here.

The personal conflict is not mine by any means ... I could not care less ... but I refuse to lay down and pretend like nothing is going on or hope that it just "goes away" ... not my style and in the 2 1/2 years that I've been posting on this site it never has been my style.

Take out the trash ... problem solved.

-adam

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