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  • 12-12-2006, 07:01 PM
    snakeLVR
    Re: live or not?
    Quote:

    Snakeman originally quoted: i used to feed live mice to my snakes but within a couple of weeks my mom and sisters couldnt handle the idea of feeding live prey to my snakes.so...i moved to f/t and they dont seem to mind that.
    Same here!
    My 3 year old son, and my 7 year old daughter feel the exact same way! We used to have rats for pets, and my little girl would flip if she saw that. I don't even show her the F/T ones. it upsets her. She loves the snakes though, and does know what they have to eat to survive.
  • 12-12-2006, 07:08 PM
    Schlyne
    Re: live or not?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakeLVR
    Quoted by Uncle Festae:
    No it doesnt...feed enough Ball Pythons F/T over a period of time and you'll see


    PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE!
    Do Explain than the specific injuries from feeding a F/T rat or mouse, after all, the proof is in the pudding! I am really curious about these injuries, after all, I would have hoped your point was to be helpful, not just to bash my preference. :D

    I've had one ball python with a small lip cut from what had to be a rat claw. She's only ever been feed f/t. I ended up running her into the vet when it didn't appear to be healing on its own. (he removed a sani chip that had gotten stuck in the cut afterward). I had to dab it with silverdyne cream every day for a couple of weeks. It's healed up fine, but you can see the scar. I can try to get pictures of it later if you want, she just ate.
  • 12-12-2006, 07:18 PM
    snakeLVR
    Re: live or not?
    Quote:

    I can try to get pictures of it later if you want, she just ate.

    That's ok, you don't need to go through the trouble, I do appreciate your explanation. :) I guess even when humans eat there is a risk from certain food items, that are of course, not living. so snakes are no different. I am still sticking with F/T.
  • 12-12-2006, 07:29 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: live or not?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakeLVR
    PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE!
    Do Explain than the specific injuries from feeding a F/T rat or mouse, after all, the proof is in the pudding! I am really curious about these injuries, after all, I would have hoped your point was to be helpful, not just to bash my preference. :D

    Over the years, I've seen at least a dozen abscesses of the mouth, tongue sheath, esophagus, and stomach caused by the claws or teeth of F/T rodents (live rodents as well) ... no system of feeding is 100% free of potential danger ... on a similar note, neither is any system of housing (escapes that result in injury, illness, or death) ... or heating (failure of heating elements that cause over/under heating resulting in injury, illness, or death) ... The trick is to do the best you can for these animals and hope that it all works out. :D

    -adam
  • 12-12-2006, 07:38 PM
    snakeLVR
    Re: live or not?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Over the years, I've seen at least a dozen abscesses of the mouth, tongue sheath, esophagus, and stomach caused by the claws or teeth of F/T rodents (live rodents as well) ... no system of feeding is 100% free of potential danger ... on a similar note, neither is any system of housing (escapes that result in injury, illness, or death) ... or heating (failure of heating elements that cause over/under heating resulting in injury, illness, or death) ... The trick is to do the best you can for these animals and hope that it all works out. :D

    -adam


    Now that makes sense! A nice professional and objective way at looking at this issue!
  • 12-12-2006, 08:14 PM
    bonez
    Re: live or not?


    Originally Posted by bonez

    have been feeding my baby (almost 1 year) live prey in his tank, i would hold him for like a half hour than i would put him back, than drop in a mouse.





    Just wondering, but why?




    Just to show some care you know get him to know me better know him better, and to try and have him understand that I am feeding him, and mostly to make sure he doesn’t think food is coming when I put my hand in the tank you know? Limit confusion between a mouse and my hand.
  • 12-12-2006, 08:17 PM
    Kizerk
    Re: live or not?
    started feeding f/t, i couldn't get consistent feedings, so i switched to live, and no refusals ever since
  • 12-12-2006, 09:02 PM
    _BoidFinatic_
    Re: live or not?
    As others have mentioned, I also feed what my snakes eat, as well as what I what I have. I have a large boa that is intimidated by live prey (no matter how small) and I have had some that are intimidated by F/T prey. Most of my snakes will take live, P/K, and F/T.
  • 12-12-2006, 09:09 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: live or not?
    i switch from live to f/t depending on what i have on hand at the time. when i get my new balls from adam... they'll be on f/t mostly as i'll need to have the right size for them available. but when there's a litter of ratties the right size... they'll be getting live.

    ;)
  • 12-12-2006, 09:16 PM
    Uncle Festae
    Re: live or not?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Over the years, I've seen at least a dozen abscesses of the mouth, tongue sheath, esophagus, and stomach caused by the claws or teeth of F/T rodents (live rodents as well) ... no system of feeding is 100% free of potential danger ... on a similar note, neither is any system of housing (escapes that result in injury, illness, or death) ... or heating (failure of heating elements that cause over/under heating resulting in injury, illness, or death) ... The trick is to do the best you can for these animals and hope that it all works out. :D

    -adam

    Thanks for taking care of the dirty work bud ;) I was away taking care of my family again :)

    With secondary mouth infections being the most common Ive seen, I also want to add that I have had a superficial puncture wound that was caused by a F/T rats exposed teeth being pushed in to the snakes flesh by its tightening coils, nothing major, but a wound none the less. I've also had Balls launch straight out of the tubs on to the floor because I accidently moved the F/T at the last second, thankfully no injuries there, but there could have been.....

    snakeLVR......Trust me when I say I have too much to do to bash on anyone, when I take the time out of my day to post here, I do my best to make sure its helpful and/or informative....I dont have 10 minutes to waste just to call someone a tool ;) And beyond that.....I also feed a good deal of F/T myself, If I dont have the right sized prey on hand for a certain animal, to the freezer I go...and some animals I just feed F/T every week simply because theres no sense in my wasting a live rat on a snake that will never turn down F/T, therefore claering freezer space :D I wasnt trying to tell you that F/T was bad or dont do it....just dont lull yourself into thinking that its completely harm free
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