Homozygous Spiders

Thanks Adam. I've got so dang much to learn about breeding on a bigger scale - does it ever stop? The constant wanting to know more? Seems like every other day I'm going "hmmmm never thought of that!" :)

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Thats the plan, breed him to as many normal females as he can. that way the results will be quite obvious. just dont like the fact that I cant follow up with another male spider. :)

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Actually, if you can swing it, it would also be best to breed to a number of virgin females. I'm personally of the belief that retained sperm happens a lot more often then we think it does.

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Actually, if you can swing it, it would also be best to breed to a number of virgin females. I'm personally of the belief that retained sperm happens a lot more often then we think it does.

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yep, have some first timers ready to go now.

Look forward to an update on all this, Ed! :)

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Originally Posted by ECLARK

What I mean is I want to see specific results. running another male spider throught the females could cloud the issue and not give me the results that Im looking for. Lets say Im breeding to produce spiders only, first breed male A to all the females, then run male B by all the femaes to insure that all the females have been bred and fertility is high. :)

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Oh, I didn't know that was common practice. I see. Beautiful Spider btw, the pattern on their heads is maybe my favorite part :)

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Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake

As far as all 7, wont all 7 be spider almost 1% of the time?

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That's right. With each egg from a heterozygous spider (as far as we know so far visible spiders are heterozygous for the spider gene, the question here is if there is also a homozygous spider) X normal having a 50% chance of getting the spider gene the odds of that happening 7 of 7 times is 0.5 ^ 7 or about 0.8% (8 out of 1,000). I would suspect there have been hundreds of spider X normal clutches by now so we would expect a few lucky clutches. Hopefully this one is homozygous and Ed can let us finally know that a homozygous spider is possible and what it's like. However if his does turn out to have just been lucky the first clutch we are back to the difficult task of proving something by its absence. Is there ever a point where we can say it's been long enough without a proven homozygous spider to "prove" it can't be done?

I would think if you continued to do spider x spider breedings and proving out the babies, at some point you'd be able to make that judement. I still think that his has to be somebody plan already, I just think this would've happend already. But maybe not.

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Originally Posted by Griggs2121

I would think if you continued to do spider x spider breedings and proving out the babies, at some point you'd be able to make that judement. I still think that his has to be somebody plan already, I just think this would've happend already. But maybe not.

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Chad, I really dont think that there is much spider x spider breeding going on, think about it. its kinda counter productive breeding a spider to another spider just to end up with a bunch of spiders. split that pair up and breed them to any other co-dom and end up with a clutch of eggs that are worth 4x or more than the spiders. :)

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Originally Posted by Griggs2121

I would think if you continued to do spider x spider breedings and proving out the babies, at some point you'd be able to make that judement. I still think that his has to be somebody plan already, I just think this would've happend already. But maybe not.

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breeding morphs with morphs is typically only done with recessive since it you cant breed to a normal and make visuals.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

breeding morphs with morphs is typically only done with recessive since it you cant breed to a normal and make visuals.

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WHAT are you smoking?