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  • 10-26-2006, 01:16 AM
    bznj1
    Re: Congratulations, New Jerseyians!
    I see nothing wrong with it. After all I myself am a lesbian trapped in a man's body.


    Man first Jim McGreevy now this. time to move out of jersey.
  • 10-26-2006, 04:20 AM
    Blu Mongoose
    Re: Congratulations, New Jerseyians!
    After 8 1/2 years together it sounds like there will be a day Kelly and I will have something to celebrate.:carrot: :carrot: :carrot: Whatever anyone else's opinion is, they are not living my life for me. I think the news is great and I'm sure I'm not alone!!!:D :D :D
  • 10-26-2006, 07:00 AM
    jglass38
    Re: Congratulations, New Jerseyians!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ECLARK
    Canada should pass a law against the men that come to the jersey shore and wear those little tight stretchy swim shorts. its just wrong. :O

    Truer words were never spoken!! Hilarious!!
  • 10-26-2006, 07:09 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: Congratulations, New Jerseyians!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blu Mongoose
    After 8 1/2 years together it sounds like there will be a day Kelly and I will have something to celebrate.:carrot: :carrot: :carrot: Whatever anyone else's opinion is, they are not living my life for me. I think the news is great and I'm sure I'm not alone!!!:D :D :D

    No Nancy you are certainly not alone. For a country that is supposed to keep state and church seperate there's sure a lot of "church" in this. This is in reality a matter of simply legalizing a union between consenting adults so that the rights any couple enjoys to medical decisions, benefits, rights of inheritance, etc. are protected under law. This is also about respect for other adults and not standing in judgement or deciding your relationship is more "valid" than theirs.

    As some of you know, my oldest daughter is gay and in a happy, committed relationship. Both as a mother and a woman I could not be happier for her. As a parent I've always wanted for my children to find happiness and security in a loving adult relationship when the time comes. I will not judge or stand quiet while someone else judges that relationship purely based on the genders involved. For me that's such a small part of a lifelong relationship and almost silly to make judgements based on what someone carries in their blue jeans. As a woman, I am proud that I raised a daughter who was not taught to be ashamed or allow society to set her course in life. I want to see my daughter and her partner allowed under law to have a civil marriage. They deserve this just like any other young couple making life decisions about marriage and the future.

    I understand this is not a comfortable thing for some people but ask you simply to respect that you really don't have a right to harshly judge another adult like this.
  • 10-26-2006, 07:10 AM
    Ginevive
    Re: Congratulations, New Jerseyians!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blu Mongoose
    After 8 1/2 years together it sounds like there will be a day Kelly and I will have something to celebrate.:carrot: :carrot: :carrot: Whatever anyone else's opinion is, they are not living my life for me. I think the news is great and I'm sure I'm not alone!!!:D :D :D

    Good for you; I hope that it goes good and you can one day celebrate that!
  • 10-26-2006, 08:00 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Congratulations, New Jerseyians!
    Perhaps I'm more sensitive to prejudices since I am myself involved in an 11 year inter-racial relationship, but my thoughts are - why does ANYONE care if two consenting adults wish to get married? I don't care what your religion is, it's not up to ANY of us to be the moral compass for anyone else.

    You don't have to approve of it, but why does it matter to anyone if Bob and Jim, or Sue and Jane get married? Do they live with you? I guess I don't understand why people get so worked up about it. Judge not, lest ye be judged!
  • 10-26-2006, 08:11 AM
    monk90222
    Re: Congratulations, New Jerseyians!
    I live in Jersey also. Finally this state did something good.
    I don't understand the big deal with gay marriage. It should be legal everywhere.
    I also don't understand why people get so worked up to fight against it?..When it really has no effect on them...who are they to tell people who they can/can't marry?
  • 10-26-2006, 08:39 AM
    mousch
    Re: Congratulations, New Jerseyians!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by monk90222
    I live in Jersey also. Finally this state did something good.
    I don't understand the big deal with gay marriage. It should be legal everywhere.
    I also don't understand why people get so worked up to fight against it?..When it really has no effect on them...who are they to tell people who they can/can't marry?

    I've never seen an argument against gay marriage that was not somehow based on religion. I don't expect absolutely everyone to agree with it - just that they accept that it is there, and let it be.
  • 10-26-2006, 09:11 AM
    AkivaSmith
    Re: Congratulations, New Jerseyians!
    I am a right wing religious (jewish) fanatic. But that said, I only judge and temper my own actions by my fanaticism. I often "preach" to my wife and children; however I would by no means openly criticize anyone's decision to join in a "religiously prohibited" relationship.

    I think that we all should reflect on the well written words of frankykeno.
  • 10-26-2006, 10:08 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: Congratulations, New Jerseyians!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AkivaSmith
    I am a right wing religious (jewish) fanatic. But that said, I only judge and temper my own actions by my fanaticism. I often "preach" to my wife and children; however I would by no means openly criticize anyone's decision to join in a "religiously prohibited" relationship.

    I think that we all should reflect on the well written words of frankykeno.

    Thank you Akiva, that's awfully kind of you to say dear. I myself would not support my own daughter insisting any religion accept her relationship if it is against their tenants and practises - she understands that's not a likely option nor something she can shove into anyone's face. I just wish that she enjoy the same rights, responsibilities and respect any other adult has under the law. Religious folk like you Akiva, that are able to live their religion without using it to punish or look down upon another, are the best expression of their personal service to a higher being in my opinion. :)
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