Re: A spider mated with a Pastel would produce what?
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Originally Posted by uservant
okay so then a mojave bred to a pastel would make what anyone?
Makes a pastel/mojave. Some folks have called them "Pastaves" ....LOL But that beats "Mo-tels"... :giggle:
Re: A spider mated with a Pastel would produce what?
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Originally Posted by piranhaking
has anyone ever made a program like corn predictor for balls?
There is a generic genetics wizard program. May be the same program you are talking about? It comes set up for corns, but information can be added for anything. They use retics as an example in the program description. I downloaded it, but haven't messed with it to see how difficult it is to use, or enter new information. It would be cool to set up for balls, rats and mice!
http://www.cornsnakes.nl/GenericGenWiz/MPGW.htm
Steve
Re: A spider mated with a Pastel would produce what?
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Originally Posted by ECLARK
Vaughn, heres something to think about. I used 2 male spiders for breeding last season.1 male bred to normal females produced about 50/50 litters. the other male when bred to normal females produced 100% spider litters. so im thinking that the one male is a super. what do you think?
i think you may be on to something Ed! i really don't have enough spiders in my collection to do my own test. i'll wait for kevin to figure that one out and let us know.
vaughn
Re: A spider mated with a Pastel would produce what?
I think the clutch results would depend on if you had a bee that was a homo spider and het pastel.
Is this even posible?
Re: A spider mated with a Pastel would produce what?
that's not the predictor i have, but I'm gonna check it out, it might be a nicer setup. Thanks.
Re: A spider mated with a Pastel would produce what?
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Originally Posted by ECLARK
I used 2 male spiders for breeding last season.1 male bred to normal females produced about 50/50 litters. the other male when bred to normal females produced 100% spider litters. so im thinking that the one male is a super. what do you think?
Thats pretty cool...any info on the parents? If that male spider was the offspring of a spider x spider pairing, there's a possibility that you have a homozygous spider (not a real super, because the spider gene in homozygous form doesn't manifest itself in a more extreme version, as pastel and super pastel look, that's what makes pastels co-dominant).
You might have just hit good odds...the law of large numbers says you need a few more years, a few more females, a bunch more eggs, and ALL spider offspring to solidify your claim on him. Good luck!
Re: A spider mated with a Pastel would produce what?
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Originally Posted by Rapture
I think the clutch results would depend on if you had a bee that was a homo spider and het pastel.
Is this even posible?
It's possible, which would work out like this:
Homozygous spider heterozygous pastel x normal would result in offspring that were at very least all spiders. Since the pastel gene has a 50% chance of landing on each of those spiders as well (making them bees), half of those resulting spiders would be pastel spiders (bees!). So, 50% spider, 50% bumblebees, with no chance of normals.
Re: A spider mated with a Pastel would produce what?
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Originally Posted by elevatethis
It's possible, which would work out like this:
Homozygous spider heterozygous pastel x normal would result in offspring that were at very least all spiders. Since the pastel gene has a 50% chance of landing on each of those spiders as well (making them bees), half of those resulting spiders would be pastel spiders (bees!). So, 50% spider, 50% bumblebees, with no chance of normals.
Woooowoooowoo hold the phone!!! There is no het pastels!! :snake:
Re: A spider mated with a Pastel would produce what?
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Originally Posted by stangs13
Woooowoooowoo hold the phone!!! There is no het pastels!! :snake:
He doesn't mean "het" in its most common use...describing a normal looking snake carrying one copy of a genetic morph. It can also apply to a pastel because the pastel also only carries one gene of a pair...it just happens to be visible. HOWever...the more proper use of the term in this case would be het-super-pastel. :P
Re: A spider mated with a Pastel would produce what?
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Originally Posted by JLC
He doesn't mean "het" in its most common use...describing a normal looking snake carrying one copy of a genetic morph. It can also apply to a pastel because the pastel also only carries one gene of a pair...it just happens to be visible. HOWever...the more proper use of the term in this case would be het-super-pastel. :P
het for super-pastel.....that's a very interesting way to look at incomplete dominace.... I like it!
