Morph Q's

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Originally Posted by sho220

What about those who aren't interested in an animal as an investment? Is the average Joe Ball Python hobbyist ever going to be able to afford anything other than "normals"? I would love to have a spider, but I'm not willing to turn this "hobby" into a "job" just to make it happen...If Jimmy doesn't start breeding Spiders am I SOL??? :)

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a few years ago, i saw a bumble bee and a super. they blew me away! then i saw the price tag, i thought this had to be a mistake (20k, then). no way could i afford that. but i could afford a nice pastel male(1k), and some normal girls to raise up. did just that,bred him and hatched some babies. i can sell/trade these babies to get stuff i want and upgrade my collection to where i want it to be. if you can't afford what you want, get what you can afford. raise them up,breed them, make extra money to get what you want! like anything else it takes hard work and patience, and a little luck. or you could get a second job? i like breeding balls alot more!!!


vaughn

I just wanted to say that this is probably the best thread that I have ever read concerning snake markets. Great input guys.

We have to stay in line about this stuff over here or else Adam comes down on us harder than a high school chick in the back seat after prom.

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Originally Posted by kavmon

a few years ago, i saw a bumble bee and a super. they blew me away! then i saw the price tag, i thought this had to be a mistake (20k, then). no way could i afford that. but i could afford a nice pastel male(1k), and some normal girls to raise up. did just that,bred him and hatched some babies. i can sell/trade these babies to get stuff i want and upgrade my collection to where i want it to be. if you can't afford what you want, get what you can afford. raise them up,breed them, make extra money to get what you want! like anything else it takes hard work and patience, and a little luck. or you could get a second job? i like breeding balls alot more!!!


vaughn

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I see what you're saying vaughn...I've seen it all before in other hobbies...If you're 30-40 and male you probably remember the little Hot Wheels cars...well...alot of those little toys sell for thousands...anyway...

Just seems that in ball pythons, the breeders are selling to the breeders...eventually, won't all those interested in breeding have what they need? Won't the market become saturated, causing prices to fall, not through the floor but to a price point attainable for some of us? I'd gladly pay up to $700 for a Spider!!!

Please take this with a grain of salt..this is all from a newbies perspective :)

eventually prices will come down, how much?, who knows!


i'm not sure if i will ever have all the balls i need! lol every year more morphs,combos and crosses are hatched out. i liked bumblebees,supers. now i really like killer bees and blue eyed lucies, kingpins,pewters,super phantom yellowbelly! pastels were out in 1997, now they are under 1k for the most part. other morphs will follow suit but it will take some time. maybe with more people breeding the supply will increase some more, but with all the new morphs fueling everything? who knows, more breeders=more buyers? i can tell you hatching morphs is alot more enjoyable than some hobbies or jobs!!!


vaughn

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Originally Posted by muddoc

I just wanted to say that this is probably the best thread that I have ever read concerning snake markets. Great input guys.

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Lemme just say I started it!! lalalalala!!! but this thread moved off my original topic pretty fast :P

Just one question for you breeders. What do you do with all the normals you hatch out??? there must be a lot. Pet stores? are there that many ppl buying normals? or do you have a lot of stockpiled normals?

Alex,
This is our first year hatching out anything. However, you can bet that I will keep all of the Normal Females that I produce, and as far as males, I haven't hatched one yet, but I already have three people waiting for Normal Males. So, they do sell, sometimes faster and sometimes you have to hold on to them for a while.

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Originally Posted by sho220

Just seems that in ball pythons, the breeders are selling to the breeders...eventually, won't all those interested in breeding have what they need? Won't the market become saturated, causing prices to fall, not through the floor but to a price point attainable for some of us? I'd gladly pay up to $700 for a Spider!!!

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Look at all the posters on here... all future or current ball python breeders who will have friends who see what they're into and want to get into breeding as well. Yeah, prices will always drop given the eventual supply, but the more people we get into the industry the more demand which keeps prices higher. I love this stuff!

Go tell your friends about ball python morphs and breeding! Make it a chain letter that if you delete it, it will burn when you pee. THAT'S how to keep the market flooded with breeders!!