What RTB should I choose?

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Originally Posted by JLC

LOL...well, not by my understanding, but I may be missing something along the way.

I did make the assumption that Acrantophis is the species name and dumerili designates a subspecies of Acrantophis, which falls under the genus of Boa...just like the Constrictor species falls under the genus of Boa. But maybe I'm just confused? :rolleye2:

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No, they gave it a whole separate genus. Did you check out that link I posted earlier? If you scroll down, it gives a pretty nice diagram of the genus'. Acrantophis is the genus and dumerili is the species, it doesn't have any subspecies like the Boa Constrictors.

Here's our Surinam BCC, Carmen:

http://www.onlinethingy.com/files/gr...enpic2_big.jpg

http://www.onlinethingy.com/files/gr...carmenpic8.jpg

We had intended to get a male BCI, but things happen and Carmen won our hearts. =) More pictures of her soon...she's just recovering (and nicely, I do believe) from a recent de-miting...

As far as my understanding goes sand boas are true boids.. they are in the erycine family.

Another snake the 'new world python' or 'sunbeam snake' loxocemus bicolor is one that is NOT a python even though it is called one.

Another related instance is the calabar burrowing python.. which is also called a 'sand boa' at times. It is debatable whether it has any true boid characteristics.

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Originally Posted by xdeus

No, they gave it a whole separate genus. Did you check out that link I posted earlier? If you scroll down, it gives a pretty nice diagram of the genus'. Acrantophis is the genus and dumerili is the species, it doesn't have any subspecies like the Boa Constrictors.

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I have browsed that site extensively in the past, but did not look at it this time to try and apply to what we're talking about here. I have a tendency to take what knowledge I have and try to apply a "logical understanding" to explain something. Most times it works out well, but sometimes I'm off the mark because I don't know quite enough. LOL

Wow, did I start this? Sorry, lol. Shelby hit it pretty good when she said it is an "old world boa". I have also heard them called BCOs in the past. ??? It all depends on what website you go to. Whew....

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Jim - are those Dumerils?

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Why, yes, they are! High Pinks...whatever that means...haha. I will find a more technical name to that later today posted under this. LMAO.

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Originally Posted by jim020cricket

Wow, did I start this? Sorry, lol. Shelby hit it pretty good when she said it is an "old world boa". I have also heard them called BCOs in the past. ??? It all depends on what website you go to. Whew....

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BCO? Actually (Argh! I'm starting to sound like Cliff from Cheers. Somebody stop me!! :grabbed: ), BCOs are another sub-species of Boa Constrictor... Occidentalis. I think there are 10 subspecies of BC.

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Actually (Argh! I'm starting to sound like Cliff from Cheers. Somebody stop me!!

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Haha, nope, I won't.

Go with the snake that makes you the happiest...it's scientific name doesn't matter. All that matters is you like him/her and you can provide the needs properly. Stay away from larger ones if you don't want a biggun (Suri's, Braz's, Guy's, etc). The smaller ones are just as pretty (Columbian's, Hogg's, Dum's, etc).
Good luck,
Jim

Correct.. BCO is boa constrictor occidentalis.. or the argentine boa. A large subspecies with little to no red color and sometimes high contrast black and white. One of my favorites. There is a T+ albino form of it that is quite lovely.

Let's see.. the BC subspecies (that I know)

BCI - imperator (colombian, central american, nicaraguan, hog island etc)
BCC - constrictor (guyana, surinam, peruvian [which often has no widow's peaks] etc
BCO - occidentalis (argentine)
BCA - amarali (bolivian/brazilian short tail some called 'silverbacks')
BCL - longicauda (peruvian longtail boa)
BCS - sabogae (pearl island boa)

Ok the ones I had to cheat on are:

BCN - nebulosa (clouded boa)
BCO - ortonii (orton's boa)
BCO - orophias (St. lucia boa)
BCM - melanogaster (black belly boa.. some say this is just a color variation of BCC)

Isn't there a "new found locale" out there from the Nicaraguan area? It's a boa and it's bluish colored. A friend of mine's girlfriend just bought a pair off the Barkers, but I haven't seen them yet. She said they are like a ground boa...

I heard of them.. they were on kingsnake. I'm pretty sure it's a new locale of a currently known subspecies.