Help me to understand.

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Originally Posted by JB_Orchidguy

Then I rebutted that I would limit sale to 2 or 3 snakes per person. Or better yet limit it to public people NOT wholesalers!!

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You severely underestimate the intelligence and business savvy of the wholesalers in the reptile trade .... If you are selling animals worth 25k for 1k each ... they WILL get them from you ... you may not realize it, but they will end up in someone’s hands that will end up flipping them for a lot more. Ball python morphs are big business and if you don't know how the game works, you'll get run right over.

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Originally Posted by JB_Orchidguy

no matter how much someone wants to make things better for the little guy there are always people out there to muck it all up.

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If you really wanted to help "the little guy" then why spend money on snakes at all ... if you’re truly concerned about "the little guy", instead of spending that initial 25k on a snake, why not use the money to feed hungry children ... 25K could buy a lot of meals .... or even better ... produce those 20 animals worth 25K ... sell them FOR WHAT THEY ARE WORTH ... make $500,000.00 ... keep the $20,000.00 that you would have made for yourself selling them at 1K each and donate the remaining $480,000.00 to a worthy charity.

So you’re saying that given an opportunity that most people will NEVER have (being able to spend 25K on a single snake) … the best you can come up with is basically giving the offspring away to help people get a cool snake? … Sounds like the squandering of tremendous opportunities to me.

-adam

:aww: When put that way Adam it makes sence. Its a Hypothetical sitiation coming from an indevidual, who at the moment could never afford to spend almost 3/4 of his yearly income on one snake. You will come to find I am a strange person sometimes. :P Its me getting frustrated for not being able to have something I would like to. Rebel at heart can't help it. LOL I never said I was a philanthropist I just would like to help spread a neat looking mutation to the hobby keepers, but you have excelent points. Make the money and at the same time increase the supply to help lower demand. LOL And besides I said i was torn and didn't know what way I would go if given the opportunity.


I was just parusing your website and read about the mixxing of 2 " "Cinnies" together, you can produce a solid black snake with zero pattern! ". :eyepoppin That would be nice too. Alot more dreaming to do. And I just keep telling myself oneday I might have that one or that one or that one :bye:

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Ball python morphs are big business and if you don't know how the game works, you'll get run right over.

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I knowe this is now off topic, but why does everyone have to be so merciless and out for blood? What happened to just being into it for fun, but still having the opportunity to have some of the great morphs out there.


BTW also noticed some of your prices for male Hets and I could see myself paying 500 for a Het and 2k for a female. Just not anytime soon. I have 2 years of nursing school to go through after I finish 4 more classes of core.

Here's another thought.


Me, being a reasonable consumer would look at your snakes and say, Hrmm... Adam's snakes are $25k, and this newb guy claims to have the same snakes for $1k. They might look like pieds, they might smell like pieds, you might have great references, but the truth is that if the breeders I trust are selling the same snakes at $25k, I'm not going to trust anything I buy for less than $25k.

Now you'll manage to sell your 20 snakes for $1000.00 each and make a cool $20k. Then you'll look around and notice that all the other pieds that were on the market sold anyway, despite your low prices, and you'll figured out you just threw away $480,000.

There are VERY few people that will leave that kind of money on the table, and even if you believe you ARE one of those people, I think it fair to warn you about Adam. Check out this link:
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=28190

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Originally Posted by JB_Orchidguy

I knowe this is now off topic, but why does everyone have to be so merciless and out for blood? What happened to just being into it for fun, but still having the opportunity to have some of the great morphs out there.

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Millions of dollars change hands every year in this business ... some people are in it for fun ... others are in it strictly for the money ... it's no different than any other business.

There are a lot of people that operate on the "hobby" level and that's cool ... but where you're talking 25K, 50K, 120K, 200K investments, it's a whole nother ball game. Fortunes are being made and lost on ball python mutations ... if you're in the game and you know how to make money, you'll do well for yourself ... and if you love the animals too, well that's a bonus. ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Black skully ... check.
Baseball bats ... check.
Case of Mickeys Big Mouths ... check.

Let's roll bro-ham! ;)

It's a "street" thing ... that's just how I roll! :P

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If this is what your talking about. I have no doubt!!

Just never underestimate the new guy. No one here knows how I role or have roled. Not trying to start anything by no means. I like Adam and he has changed my mind about the 1k BP from 25K stock thing. I'm done with that. I was just venting is all, and if I was able to slam 25K down for a snake I think I would get the market value for the prodigy. Adam is such a good sport for putting up with me during this and other threads. :handshake Give me time to settle in and I will not be sturing up such a debate. ;)

Thanks Adam. :w00t:

I might one day be on the 25k to 200k level of things, but not for a LOOOOONNNGGG while. My dreams and other folks pics will have to do till then.

Well that sounds like a cop-out.. ..just when I thought I was gonna see a fight.


*sigh*... back to Sunday night hockey I guess....

Yeah stick with Hockey. LOL I don't fight unlessI have to. I don;t need to go to jail. I have too many cool snakes I would like to aquire. I don't think they would allow me to build snake racks and keep snakes in Jail. LMAO Besides Adam so far hasn't given me any reason to get pissed much less want to fight.

I know your messin and Hey do you have dish network for your Hockey? he he he :devilish:

Oh I see your in British Columbia Hockey country nevermind. :laughing:

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I can't be sure that next time I sit on the toilet that I won't get sucked down into the sewer ... but that's not going to stop me next time I have to take a dunk.

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Pal....I have gone to college for 6 years to ensure that you do not get sucked down your toilet.... you are ok :)

....I need to quit posting after Survivor night....ha ha....gobble gobble :D :beer: :nirvana: :absolut: :puke: :sleepy: