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I preferably feed live, pre-killed is fine! When the mouse goes in I wait with a pencil or pen something that "if" Mary J doesn't get the mouse in the head I can hold the head of the mouse up so it does not do no damage!

The only problem with pre-killed is when the snake doesnt wanna eat some ppl make the stupid mistake of putting the mouse back into a bag and freeze it again! BIG NO NO! The mouse has already started to de-compose, so when u thaw it out again and the snake eats it, your snake could de-compose from the stomach out. I've have actually witnessed this happening with a "old" freind of mine and there is nothing you can do the vets can't even help ur snake at this point!

-pouts-
i only see a green screen.

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i prefer to feed f/t rats.
crowley prefers live mice.
we're the odd couple.

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The only problem with pre-killed is when the snake doesnt wanna eat some ppl make the stupid mistake of putting the mouse back into a bag and freeze it again! BIG NO NO! The mouse has already started to de-compose, so when u thaw it out again and the snake eats it, your snake could de-compose from the stomach out.

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i'd like to see some science to back up your claims... i've done that before and i know a LOT of others have to. besides, snakes eat carrion in the wild all the time.

I said it doesnt always happen but it has been documented, and I was there during the feeding and at the vet's office.

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I said it doesnt always happen but it has been documented, and I was there during the feeding and at the vet's office.

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Care to share the documentation?

O yea let me go ask the vet if I can have a copy of the forms that wasn't even owned by me with some1 else's name on the paper he'll think I am tryin to get some1's address to kill them! O NO I got it! Ill go get the news crew we had there filming this spectacular event!

The veternarians aren't aloud to give out that info. They can tell you what's written on the sheets of paper except for the name and address of the patient's owner. "It has been documented" not "I have documented it" My freinds at my local pet store, in my town, will even tell you that.

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Originally Posted by Sheets12

O yea let me go ask the vet if I can have a copy of the forms that wasn't even owned by me with some1 else's name on the paper he'll think I am tryin to get some1's address to kill them! O NO I got it! Ill go get the news crew we had there filming this spectacular event!

The veternarians aren't aloud to give out that info. They can tell you what's written on the sheets of paper except for the name and address of the patient's owner. "It has been documented" not "I have documented it" My freinds at my local pet store, in my town, will even tell you that.

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No need to be a Smart$%@ about it.:rolleyes:

that was rude.
you cant simply get your friend to get the documents?

im not exactly understanding- are you saying the f/t started to decompose inside the snake and started to cause the snake's stomach to decompose?? unless that rat was left out for a rediculous amount of time on the first thawing and then was allowed to settle again on the next feeding, even then, wouldnt the snake's stomac dissolve most of the problem? i dont see how something dissolving being set with something non-dissolving could cause total disolvation (lol word?)
thats like. if i ate decomposed roadkill. yes i would get sick. no i would not rot O.O

dont think of it as eating ur snake away from the inside. its a kinda slow process. after u unthaw a mouse, it begins to decompose, those decomposing organs create "mild" (not harmful) bacteria when u freeze it again then unthaw again it speeds up the process of bacteria producing organisms. the snake doesn't decompose "persay" from the inside out but they're organ's start to slow down and eventually give out.

i've done a science fair project before about how the snake's organs work, the main thing of the project was the stomach and how the acids break down the food and such. the acids are very strong in the snake but liner of the stomach is very vulnerable to bacteria