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  • 01-13-2006, 11:36 AM
    Lobo_Reptiles
    Re: No more retics and burms in NY?
    The whole terrorist thing is another thing that makes me loate PETA even more. Sometimes I just can't fathom how these people can believe the things that they do.
  • 01-13-2006, 01:21 PM
    Shelby
    Re: No more retics and burms in NY?
    ddbjdealer - in theory, that has it's merits, but it'd be a HUGE undertaking to say the least. Plus that.. would the licenses cost money? Probably.. then it would discourage young enthusiasts from breeding that first pair of $20 cornsnakes because they can't afford the license. I do think petstores should have more regulations on their standards of keeping animals.. BUT the standards should be drawn up by someone who is involved with the animals and actuallly knows about them - not some joe shmoe who thinks snakes need 'lots of breathing room, and toys too! can't let those poor animals get bored!' :P
  • 01-13-2006, 01:38 PM
    The Cannibal Monkey
    Re: No more retics and burms in NY?
    Not to push anyone's buttons, but I'd just like to say that although petco and petsmart are more than lacking in the information department (to put it nicely), the ones around here at least make a very obvious attempt to keep their stores clean and their animals in good condition, and they do seem to encourage education quite a bit. I can't remember the number of times I've walked into local pet shops as a child and seen animals being kept in sickening condition; I wouldn't even want to TRY and get info from places like that. Feel free to disagree with this (I'm sure some of you will ;)!), I'd like to know what people think about the "chain stores", honestly...


    People could easily look at that kind of stuff and think that all animal lovers are crazy, people-hating terrorists...
  • 01-13-2006, 02:11 PM
    alexrls
    Re: No more retics and burms in NY?
    the truth is that i find in both my locla petcos the birds and rodents are kept quite nicely and the reptiles are clean and well fed BUT the are not housed properly( actually i can only say the for the BPs i dont know that much about housing other herps. but i think that redtails dont normally require and upright tank (like for a tree snake)
  • 01-13-2006, 02:17 PM
    The Cannibal Monkey
    Re: No more retics and burms in NY?
    Yeah definately I'd agree with that, they just have a pile of them (BPs) in there together....I wonder how many times they have situations where one eats some of the others.
  • 01-14-2006, 12:08 AM
    Shelby
    Re: No more retics and burms in NY?
    I work at Petsmart (dog groomer) I am friends with the specialty (reptile fish small mammal etc) people, and they're great. They take very good care of the animals. I know not all petsmarts are like it, but they do a wonderful job.
  • 01-24-2006, 02:11 PM
    Colin Vestrand
    Re: No more retics and burms in NY?
    not to dig up an older post, but our petsmart is really great as far as reptiles go. they have very clean enclosures with hides and all that good stuff. i did ask them about housing all those balls together and the fact that they don't really keep temps at optimum measures, and all three people said the same thing: these animals usually sell so fast that it doesn't matter.
    which makes sense actually... if you sell out of all your balls in a week and they're all the size of a freaking sharpie marker anyway, then i don't think there'd be a problem.
    on the flip side, there's two mom & pop shops around here that are just horrible... ive felt so bad every time i've been in them, i just want to buy up all the animals and take them home with me.
  • 01-24-2006, 02:30 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: No more retics and burms in NY?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kzooherpetoculturist
    i did ask them about housing all those balls together and the fact that they don't really keep temps at optimum measures, and all three people said the same thing: these animals usually sell so fast that it doesn't matter. which makes sense actually...

    Excellent!

    -adam
  • 01-24-2006, 05:59 PM
    alexrls
    Re: No more retics and burms in NY?
    i guess that makes sense if they really do sell out fast but it still isnt right. theyre giving the wrong impression to potential buyers.
  • 01-24-2006, 07:42 PM
    tigerlily
    Re: No more retics and burms in NY?
    Uh guys... I don't care how short a time they are in their care, they need to provide the correct enviroment. Anything short of that is irresponisble and just an excuse for not doing what they should. Besides, that is just setting up all those new owners for possible RIs.
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