Tank size questions

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Originally Posted by ckenney35

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not being rude or defensive in any way and if it came off that way I'm sorry. I appreciate the help and your guys time. I'm doing the best with what I have near me since I live in such a small town. Literally 2 hours away from any major city. I'm going to the city on the 19th for a reptile show so I'll see if they have any items you listed there as well.

The spider robotics seems very expensive and I won't be able to order that for a pay period or two. I am willing to work the overtime to buy it if need be.

I want Lucy to be happy and healthy and she seems happy, we will find out for sure in about a half hour or so cause that's feeding time.

I will place the probe like you said and I will find the instructions wherever I put them and post a picture of the instructions to show you.

I've looked up and seen mixed reviews on the zoo med thermostats and they seem like they will do until I can save for the more expensive ones.

I think I've decided to just lose the battle with the glass enclosure and buy either one of the Exxo Terra terrerriums or something like that. I know you guys say the ones you listed are best but I would like to still have Lucy on display as well and I really can't afford to buy the who rack for just one snake.

Can't really say with all the validity in the world but exxo terra claims to have put allot of research into their tanks and say they are suitable for all reptiles

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If I were spending the money, I would go with animal plastics over Exo Terra. I own 3 Exo Terra’s. They are really just a nicer version of a glass aquarium. You are going to have the same difficulty regulating in one. They work well for a lot of reptiles, just not BPs. My leopard geckos do well in them as does my crested gecko, but when you need both heat and humidity, they aren’t ideal. You would need a 36x18x12 exoterra for an adult snake, and that runs about $200. A similarly sized animal plastics enclosure will cost $190 shipped. It would still allow you to display your girl.


I am in a similar situation to you as far as access to stores. I really only have Petsmart and one small local store. I order almost everything online.

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Originally Posted by ckenney35

I think I've decided to just lose the battle with the glass enclosure and buy either one of the Exxo Terra terrerriums or something like that. I know you guys say the ones you listed are best but I would like to still have Lucy on display as well and I really can't afford to buy the who rack for just one snake.
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Even PVC cages? You can still have plenty of display with Animal Plastic cages with the added benefit of maintaining humidity! Plus easier to install RHP's and cheaper than glass tanks by far :) Win-Win! And you will love love love them! Here's my set up in a T12 (currently divided in half) and you can see it showcases plenty!
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Originally Posted by reptilemom25

If I were spending the money, I would go with animal plastics over Exo Terra. I own 3 Exo Terra’s. They are really just a nicer version of a glass aquarium. You are going to have the same difficulty regulating in one. They work well for a lot of reptiles, just not BPs. My leopard geckos do well in them as does my crested gecko, but when you need both heat and humidity, they aren’t ideal. You would need a 36x18x12 exoterra for an adult snake, and that runs about $200. A similarly sized animal plastics enclosure will cost $190 shipped. It would still allow you to display your girl.


I am in a similar situation to you as far as access to stores. I really only have Petsmart and one small local store. I order almost everything online.

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Ok so assuming I bought the animal plastics cage. I'm looking at the terrestrial cage for her correct?

1. I assume I have to have them pre cut the screen on top for CHE correct?

2. I do like I can have them add LED Lighting but I can always buy LED Lighting and install myself that way I can add the color changing bulbs to have a day/night cycle

3. Should I just spend the extra and have them add the heat tape? Because i do not see how or where I would put the UTH because it's plastic and not glass

4. Will she need the screen vent on top

5. Will she need the basking shelf

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Originally Posted by ckenney35

Ok so assuming I bought the animal plastics cage. I'm looking at the terrestrial cage for her correct?

1. I assume I have to have them pre cut the screen on top for CHE correct?

2. I do like I can have them add LED Lighting but I can always buy LED Lighting and install myself that way I can add the color changing bulbs to have a day/night cycle

3. Should I just spend the extra and have them add the heat tape? Because i do not see how or where I would put the UTH because it's plastic and not glass

4. Will she need the screen vent on top

5. Will she need the basking shelf

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1. I assume I have to have them pre cut the screen on top for CHE correct?

No, you do not want the screen top. Bad for humidity. Have them install a RHP instead. Takes away way less humidity and easier to control temps and will be cheaper in the long-run. You can call and request this. They work with Bob at pro-products for this.

2. I do like I can have them add LED Lighting but I can always buy LED Lighting and install myself that way I can add the color changing bulbs to have a day/night cycle

Easier if they install. Can be a pain after the fact. However, I think there are threads on here where people have done after the fact. Not sure where. Anyone have experience with LED's in AP's after having the cage and not installed by AP?

3. Should I just spend the extra and have them add the heat tape? Because i do not see how or where I would put the UTH because it's plastic and not glass

I like both heat tape and RHP working together off the same thermostat. That's what I do. Many say RHP is enough, but I like redundancy and I also like belly heat. Get the heat tape and a RHP and run off one thermostat. The incremental cost is worth it to be future proof and redundant.

4. Will she need the screen vent on top

No.

5. Will she need the basking shelf

No.

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Originally Posted by ckenney35

Ok so assuming I bought the animal plastics cage. I'm looking at the terrestrial cage for her correct?

1. I assume I have to have them pre cut the screen on top for CHE correct?

2. I do like I can have them add LED Lighting but I can always buy LED Lighting and install myself that way I can add the color changing bulbs to have a day/night cycle

3. Should I just spend the extra and have them add the heat tape? Because i do not see how or where I would put the UTH because it's plastic and not glass

4. Will she need the screen vent on top

5. Will she need the basking shelf

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A lot depends on your room temps, but I would NOT go with a CHE. A RHP is about $100 but well worth the money. As a previous poster said you can run an RHP without the heat tape, or use both. There is nothing special you have to do to install. It goes right on the bottom just like a glass tank. It won’t damage the PVC. AP even cuts a notch for the temp probe.


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Originally Posted by dakski

1. I assume I have to have them pre cut the screen on top for CHE correct?

No, you do not want the screen top. Bad for humidity. Have them install a RHP instead. Takes away way less humidity and easier to control temps and will be cheaper in the long-run. You can call and request this. They work with Bob at pro-products for this.

2. I do like I can have them add LED Lighting but I can always buy LED Lighting and install myself that way I can add the color changing bulbs to have a day/night cycle

Easier if they install. Can be a pain after the fact. However, I think there are threads on here where people have done after the fact. Not sure where. Anyone have experience with LED's in AP's after having the cage and not installed by AP?

3. Should I just spend the extra and have them add the heat tape? Because i do not see how or where I would put the UTH because it's plastic and not glass

I like both heat tape and RHP working together off the same thermostat. That's what I do. Many say RHP is enough, but I like redundancy and I also like belly heat. Get the heat tape and a RHP and run off one thermostat. The incremental cost is worth it to be future proof and redundant.

4. Will she need the screen vent on top

No.

5. Will she need the basking shelf

No.

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That gives me a bit to think about but $500 is going to be a bit of a wait unfortunately. I will have to work quite a bit of overtime for that. It's doable but maybe not for a couple months

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Originally Posted by ckenney35

That gives me a bit to think about but $500 is going to be a bit of a wait unfortunately. I will have to work quite a bit of overtime for that. It's doable but maybe not for a couple months

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I am currently saving for an AP setup. I am using a tub for now. My Astrid won’t be ready for a bigger space for a long time. She is only about 90g now. She should be good where she is to at least 300g.


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Originally Posted by reptilemom25

I am currently saving for an AP setup. I am using a tub for now. My Astrid won’t be ready for a bigger space for a long time. She is only about 90g now. She should be good where she is to at least 300g.


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Then what would be the best thing to do to regulate humidity till then...mist every few hours or get a misting system

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Then what would be the best thing to do to regulate humidity till then...mist every few hours or get a misting system

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I honestly don’t know. It’s very difficult to get right in an aquarium. The first thing I would try would be misting down the substrate well and covering the top with foil or plastic.


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Originally Posted by ckenney35

That gives me a bit to think about but $500 is going to be a bit of a wait unfortunately. I will have to work quite a bit of overtime for that. It's doable but maybe not for a couple months

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Understood, but worth it when you can afford it.

At her size, she can stay in the 30g for a while. We will help with humidity.

Mist substrate with warm water in sprayer. Cover top with foil. See where you are.