Can a Blood Be A ....

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Can it be a good beginner snake? Yes to the person who does extremely extensive research and spends plenty time tinkering with enclosures and seeing what works to keep humidity and temps good.


Are most people this prepared? No.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

Can it be a good beginner snake? Yes to the person who does extremely extensive research and spends plenty time tinkering with enclosures and seeing what works to keep humidity and temps good.

Are most people this prepared? No.

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Someone doing a bunch of research isn't automatically going to make this species good for beginners. Novice keepers have to get their feet wet and make mistakes while actually keeping an animal, and bloods/short-tails are much less forgiving of the mistakes that are bound to happen. The vast majority of novice keepers typically lack the sensitivity & attention to detail that are required in order to keep little problems from becoming big ones with these snakes, and need to "cut their teeth" on a species that is going to give a little more leeway when something goes wrong.

I think it's a bit irresponsible to go saying "they'd make a good beginner species 'if'..." regardless of what the "if" actually is. Typically when there's an "if" involved, you can't put an animal under the general umbrella of "good beginner species."

I realize I'm responding to a bit of an older post here, but felt this needed to be said lest anyone gain the wrong impression of blood pythons based on "doing enough research." They aren't rocket science, but they aren't the best choice for a "beginner."

Just my $.02...

K~

With the experience that Kara is speaking from, I feel weird saying "I totally agree," as if her thoughts need any kind of validation to begin with...but I do totally agree, especially because I can remember having that 'new keeper' mentality not so long ago.

I'll say the same thing, just another way:

Bloods are one of those intermediate species where no amount of research is going to give you "the eye" for identifying and interpreting certain behaviors that experience gives you.

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Originally Posted by KLG

Someone doing a bunch of research isn't automatically going to make this species good for beginners. Novice keepers have to get their feet wet and make mistakes while actually keeping an animal, and bloods/short-tails are much less forgiving of the mistakes that are bound to happen. The vast majority of novice keepers typically lack the sensitivity & attention to detail that are required in order to keep little problems from becoming big ones with these snakes, and need to "cut their teeth" on a species that is going to give a little more leeway when something goes wrong.

I think it's a bit irresponsible to go saying "they'd make a good beginner species 'if'..." regardless of what the "if" actually is. Typically when there's an "if" involved, you can't put an animal under the general umbrella of "good beginner species."

I realize I'm responding to a bit of an older post here, but felt this needed to be said lest anyone gain the wrong impression of blood pythons based on "doing enough research." They aren't rocket science, but they aren't the best choice for a "beginner."

Just my $.02...

K~

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excellent post and I could'nt agree more, Bloods are not a species to cut your teeth on at all no matter how much reading up you do.

Fabulous snakes but I would say to any potential keeper do get experience with a more forgiving species 1st.

Some snakes require experience and there for fall into a catagory not befitting of beginner status, reading books gives you none, not to say reading books is not a good thing as it is as a supplimental aid to further ones knowledge but be realistic and think whats best for the animal in question 1st .........What Can I offer it ? Am I capable of reading potential problems before they become detrimental to its health. Can I provide and maintain its requirments ?

Regarding temps and humidity you dont want to be tinkering with things to see what works when dealing with bloods, they should go into a habitat that is already proficiently maintained and capable of supplying their needs, when your messing around trying things your rolling the dice on your animals health.

Are most people this prepared ? what do you think ?

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Originally Posted by snakey68

excellent post and I could'nt agree more, Bloods are not a species to cut your teeth on at all no matter how much reading up you do.

Fabulous snakes but I would say to any potential keeper do get experience with a more forgiving species 1st.

Some snakes require experience and there for fall into a catagory not befitting of beginner status, reading books gives you none, not to say reading books is not a good thing as it is as a supplimental aid to further ones knowledge but be realistic and think whats best for the animal in question 1st .........What Can I offer it ? Am I capable of reading potential problems before they become detrimental to its health. Can I provide and maintain its requirments ?

Regarding temps and humidity you dont want to be tinkering with things to see what works when dealing with bloods, they should go into a habitat that is already proficiently maintained and capable of supplying their needs, when your messing around trying things your rolling the dice on your animals health.

Are most people this prepared ? what do you think ?

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I said to tinker with the enclosure to get humidity and temps right before getting the snake. As far as reading potential problems etc...this is with every specie of animals whether it be dogs, birds, snakes, or rodents. You cannot notice the potential problems if you have never experienced them anyway.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

I said to tinker with the enclosure to get humidity and temps right before getting the snake. As far as reading potential problems etc...this is with every specie of animals whether it be dogs, birds, snakes, or rodents. You cannot notice the potential problems if you have never experienced them anyway.

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yes and you are better experiencing problems with a less problematic and less forgiving species regardless.

I don't think a Blood is a good first snake. Learning basic husbandry is important a Ball is IMO a good starter snake. I think at a point though you need to be the one who decides when you are ready for a more difficult species. When I first got into reptile I saw a picture of a White lip. Oh man I wanted one until I interacted with one.,This little one was NASTY. I got a Ball then a jungle then I jumped off into scrubs. So take your time do your homework and get some time in with husbandry you will be much happier you did.



Chuck

i got a blood technically "dumped" on me... a friend needed me to take care of her while he was out of town alot cause of work...
i have had her a year...

i learned alot obout these things, they can be nice, and they can be pissy, and they need some serious humidity controle to help them shed =]

first snake i got was a corn,
then a ball... then like i had 5 balls,
then the blood.
then the JCP's
then the Brazilian Rainbow...
so yeah... personally i think jungles are good even tho they are nippy when young...
my adult female is an absolute doll

hmmm...I myself would probably avoid it.

I am no expert on Bloods, but compared to Balls, they require a bit more husbandry in terms they are not as forgiving as balls when it comes to housing....and there is just not much info out there about them. There are some great people on this board who could help you...but again, there is much more on Balls then there are Bloods...I myself was looking for some info on Sumatran Black Blood Reproduction and had trouble finding some, so I turned to Kara from NERD for some help, and she is working on an article on that topic (sorry Kara if I wasnt suppose to say anything! :weirdface )...but ya...probably not one of the top beginner snakes.



...Just realized this thread is like 37 years old :)