Leopard gecko or hognose snake

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Originally Posted by William Snakespeare

The breeder seems to know what he's talking about.

I would be very concerned if the leo looked like thishttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...089bde16bc.jpg

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just because the animal isn't in as bad of condition as it could be doesn't mean it isn't in bad condition. IDK much about leopard geckos, but that animal looks far too skinny to be in good care and i would never pay money for an animal that looks like the one you posted.

IMO you're taking a risk on that animal.

Oh my, that poor thing :(

I'd try to get a healthier leopard gecko, if you could. Or maybe ask for more pictures before you buy--maybe the photo is just at a bad angle or a bad time; but that leopard gecko doesn't seem the healthiest to me.

There are lots of breeders out there with healthy adults, if that's what you're looking for. If you're not worried about the morph, only the money, I can spot some very cheap ones on MorphMarket.com

Eish, I really thought he looked relatively healthy but I guess not.

I have already tried to rehabilitate my one rescue ball python. I really don't want to go through the stress of having to rehabilitate another one.

I really wanted a super snow so I think I would have been an impulse buy. But I am so glad I could reach out to you guys. You have been an awesome help.

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Originally Posted by savora

Oh my, that poor thing :(

I'd try to get a healthier leopard gecko, if you could. Or maybe ask for more pictures before you buy--maybe the photo is just at a bad angle or a bad time; but that leopard gecko doesn't seem the healthiest to me.

There are lots of breeders out there with healthy adults, if that's what you're looking for. If you're not worried about the morph, only the money, I can spot some very cheap ones on MorphMarket.com

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Thanks but I am based in South Africa and Morphmarket doesnt sell any leos

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Are we talking about the same leopard gecko? The super snow in this pic?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9cf94b5f4b.jpg

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Originally Posted by William Snakespeare

Eish, I really thought he looked relatively healthy but I guess not.

I have already tried to rehabilitate my one rescue ball python. I really don't want to go through the stress of having to rehabilitate another one.

I really wanted a super snow so I think I would have been an impulse buy. But I am so glad I could reach out to you guys. You have been an awesome help.

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it's not so much the animal looks really bad, but a skinny animal with a very obviously filthy home (which the person taking the photo didn't seem to care about) raises some red flags in my head. i don't want you to spend money on an animal that could have existing health problems they might not ever get over, so you'd pay money for a sick animal that could potentially die.

keep your eyes out for another, as i can guarantee there will be another one, that is plump and in a cleaner home. :) if i'm spending my hard-earned money, i want nothing but the best!

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

it's not so much the animal looks really bad, but a skinny animal with a very obviously filthy home (which the person taking the photo didn't seem to care about) raises some red flags in my head. i don't want you to spend money on an animal that could have existing health problems they might not ever get over, so you'd pay money for a sick animal that could potentially die.

keep your eyes out for another, as i can guarantee there will be another one, that is plump and in a cleaner home. :) if i'm spending my hard-earned money, i want nothing but the best!

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Thanks for the quick reply[emoji106]

You're right, I am better off with a more healthy and chubby gecko with little to no problems compared to a gecko that is malnourished, skinny etc

These geckos from another breeder are much be betterhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4ef4bbbd44.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6a408b96f9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d5b3bd22b0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0b0c0f7b2c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...cde21685b1.jpg

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Originally Posted by William Snakespeare

Thanks for the quick reply[emoji106]

You're right, I am better off with a more healthy and chubby gecko with little to no problems compared to a gecko that is malnourished, skinny etc

These geckos from another breeder are much be betterhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4ef4bbbd44.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6a408b96f9.jpg

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Yes you are and there is a huge difference between those ones and the other, when looking at a leopard you also want to look at the fat in their tail, look at the other picture again, and again if a "breeder" think it's ok and normal to sell animals by taking pictures in filth think again what kind of "breeder you are dealing with.

A breeder should sound but also look professional and part of it is how he keep his animals and are he is showing/selling them, do we all have dirty cages? Yes, but breeders are on the top of it and spend a lot of time cleaning and they would never send pictures like that other one.

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Originally Posted by William Snakespeare

Thanks for the quick reply[emoji106]

You're right, I am better off with a more healthy and chubby gecko with little to no problems compared to a gecko that is malnourished, skinny etc

These geckos from another breeder are much be betterhttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...4ef4bbbd44.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...6a408b96f9.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...d5b3bd22b0.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...0b0c0f7b2c.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...cde21685b1.jpg

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i'm glad we were able to help you understand our concern. i promise you'll be much better off passing on that animal. you would be miserable if you took that baby home only for it to not eat or become sick right away.

have some patience and keep your eyes open for more Leopard morphs you like. having a healthy animal is worth all the time, patience and money in the world. :)

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Originally Posted by Deborah

when looking at a leopard you also want to look at the fat in their tail, look at the other picture again

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WOW!!! i just compared the photos: i never knew to look at their tails, and that poor baby's tail is almost nothing!!!