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  • 12-07-2017, 08:18 PM
    SDA
    Re: Let humidity drop to 10-20% and only bump it to 50-60% when about to shed (succes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leocrespo View Post
    What exactly is the evidence that it is harming the animals? I've noticed no side effects whatsoever.

    Do you now have a hygrometer? If you let your cage stay at 10-15% your snake would not thrive. The first major sign would be dented eyes. What you would not see is kidney distress leading to anything from failure to kidney stones. Constipation is a major concern as it can lead to GI tract issues. One obvious sign is lengthwise skin folds in the snake which are a clear sign the snake's body is trying desperately to conserve water.

    Notice I don't mention repository infection? You have to have an infection source to cause infection. Extremely low humidity in a snake not designed to conserve moisture when breathing will cause repository problems but it won't automatically cause a RI. That being said your snake will have issues maintaining proper humid conditions in their lungs at such low humidity.

    I am not talking a few days of low humidity but if you keep it constantly like that for months (10%), these signs and symptoms will occur. The longer you let this foolishness go, the worse it will get. What I am getting at is keeping it like that will destroy their immune system and overall health and if not now, down the road you are going to have a problem.

    Stop being stubborn and take care of that snake or get one that is more adapted to a desert environment.
  • 12-07-2017, 08:38 PM
    Godzilla78
    Its like saying, "I've been feeding my kid candy and ice cream all day, and see no side effects, so everything must be fine!" A few weeks later the kids is throwing up, malnourished and constipated... ooops. WHY WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE HEALTH PROBLEMS WHEN YOU KNOW THAT BALL PYTHONS ARE EVOLVED TO LIVE IN ENVIRONMENTS OF 50%+ HUMIDITY YEAR ROUND?:disbeliefJust stubborn? or lazy? or just willing to see if your snake gets sick for no reason?:clueless:
  • 12-07-2017, 09:26 PM
    MD_Pythons
    Re: Let humidity drop to 10-20% and only bump it to 50-60% when about to shed (succes
    Once again, why risk it? Sure it'll be convenient now but it sure won't be when all your bps get RIs. Please raise your humidity, illness isn't worth skipping a couple minutes of misting your enclosures.
  • 12-07-2017, 10:25 PM
    leocrespo
    Re: Let humidity drop to 10-20% and only bump it to 50-60% when about to shed (succes
    Constant high humidity seems to be a consensus here. If this is true then there would be plenty of evidence. Just send me the evidence that constant humidity is required, and high humidity only during shedding isn't enough, and I will gladly change my mind. Just because you say it is doesn't make it so because I can see the opposite with my own eyes. I have two racks so in one I'll keep misting and in the other I'll stop altogether. I'll monitor humidity on both and watch closely. If there are any issues I'll update this post.
  • 12-07-2017, 10:33 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Keep that in mind BEFORE you make a post asking whats wrong with your animal........
    FYI 50% humidity is not high.
  • 12-07-2017, 10:50 PM
    leocrespo
    Re: Let humidity drop to 10-20% and only bump it to 50-60% when about to shed (succes
    Noted. So my theory is that ball pythons do well 25-30% humidity as long as you bump it up considerably during shed. If there is the slightest problem with any of the snakes in the rack I'm not misting I'll stop and report. If there isn't I'll continue as a dryer tub is better.
  • 12-08-2017, 08:25 AM
    Plasma
    Re: Let humidity drop to 10-20% and only bump it to 50-60% when about to shed (succes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leocrespo View Post
    Noted. So my theory is that ball pythons do well 25-30% humidity as long as you bump it up considerably during shed. If there is the slightest problem with any of the snakes in the rack I'm not misting I'll stop and report. If there isn't I'll continue as a dryer tub is better.

    So they're just a science experiment? Don't mess with their lives and get rid of them if you're not going to care for them properly. I live in Las Vegas too so don't think I'm coming from somewhere that doesn't cause as much struggle with humidity. There's a reason as to why everyone on here is telling you to get your humidity up. Please get rid of them if you can't even get yourself to mist for their health :rolleyes:
  • 12-08-2017, 11:48 AM
    SDA
    You want proof of low humidity issues. I say prove your racks are actually 10-20% humidity. I feel you either are not using accurate measurement or simply do not have something to reliably test inside an enclosure.

    Right now it is 35% inside my house but my ball pythons enclosure is 65%.

    Prove the inside of your enclosures are under 30% humidity. I doubt they are even under 40%
  • 12-08-2017, 03:01 PM
    Godzilla78
    Re: Let humidity drop to 10-20% and only bump it to 50-60% when about to shed (succes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SDA View Post
    You want proof of low humidity issues. I say prove your racks are actually 10-20% humidity. I feel you either are not using accurate measurement or simply do not have something to reliably test inside an enclosure.

    Right now it is 35% inside my house but my ball pythons enclosure is 65%.

    Prove the inside of your enclosures are under 30% humidity. I doubt they are even under 40%

    He already said earlier in the thread that he has no hygrometer and is just completely guessing.
  • 12-08-2017, 07:47 PM
    Momokahn
    Re: Let humidity drop to 10-20% and only bump it to 50-60% when about to shed (succes
    He could be using a divining rod water witchers use to measure his humidity. There are plenty of YouTube videos describing the art of Dowsing. If its on YouTube you know it has to be true.
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