New Addition. Russo White Diamond (BEL)

I have yet to see a SuperRusso that did not develop a dorsal stripe. I will go one further and say I have witnessed the presence of a dorsal stripe in every super form of BluEL but the frequency and visibility of it is less likely with the strongest alleles in the group (e.g., Lesser, Butter, and possibly Bamboo) but the trade off is that the supers in the stronger alleles tend toward bug-eye

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Originally Posted by Ax01

she looks kinda like a Pastel Champagne. what exactly was the pairing that produced her. the dam is a White Diamond, what was the sire - a Russo something? i would get her under a black light. maybe u will discover some cool patterns.



the "White Diamond" in that pix also has a buggy left eye. i wonder how common that might be. although this is a small sample, but this discussion is leading me to believe the White Diamond's rep as the purest white snake ain't really all that (unless there's something else at play and they aren't pure Super Russo's (White Diamond) ).

Edit: i hope Hannah, our resident BEL-complex superfan, will find this thread and chime in.

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Im late to the party! Didnt read every reply but will add my 2 cents. I have NEVER seen an all white super russo( im sure some have less striping than others). I honestly dont know why people claim theyre the whitest of white. I think the whole "white diamond" thing puts things in peoples heads. Here are a few pictures of my 2000g girl and she has a noticeable stripe along with pattern under black light. I dont know what that breeder was talking about as far as the stripe lessening when they do the opposite with age.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...08a11265ed.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...13f2492bbc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b83773d030.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...072891585e.jpg

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And as far as what id say are generally the whitest whites of BPs, my Super Lesser is solid white with no striping under black light and my girl has normal eyes but i won't produce more and risk making them buggy. The other closest to white is this pastel lesser mojave i produced which has just the faintest stripe. Crappy picture but i just pulled them out real quick to take a picture in natural light before our snow storm hits.
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Originally Posted by HannahLou

And as far as what id say are generally the whitest whites of BPs, my Super Lesser is solid white with no striping under black light and my girl has normal eyes but i won't produce more and risk making them buggy. The other closest to white is this pastel lesser mojave i produced which has just the faintest stripe. Crappy picture but i just pulled them out real quick to take a picture in natural light before our snow storm hits.
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Hanna thank you for your replies.. Well I'm a Pet guy so I'm now over the fact she isn't pure white..what gets me is what Vin says about them. He sure seems like a great person, but what he told me is all wrong and i have each of his emails where he said it all.. If I was a Hot Head id call him out on it but I just assume enjoy my snakes and learn. I will however tell anyone that wants a pure white snake not to buy a White Diamond thats for sure.


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Originally Posted by Mr Sully

Hanna thank you for your replies.. Well I'm a Pet guy so I'm now over the fact she isn't pure white..what gets me is what Vin says about them. He sure seems like a great person, but what he told me is all wrong and i have each of his emails where he said it all.. If I was a Hot Head id call him out on it but I just assume enjoy my snakes and learn. I will however tell anyone that wants a pure white snake not to buy a White Diamond thats for sure.


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Oh wow somehow i missed your communication was with Mr Russo himself. Well, I've never heard much but positive about him so all I can think is that maybe its a case of a parents blind eye and all of their babies are the cutest regardless what others see ;)

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Originally Posted by HannahLou

Oh wow somehow i missed your communication was with Mr Russo himself. Well, I've never heard much but positive about him so all I can think is that maybe its a case of a parents blind eye and all of their babies are the cutest regardless what others see ;)

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Yup I talked to him for over a year about these.. And then was on the list since fall of 2016. He lives here in NY and has a great reputation and is a nice guy to boot.


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Very beautiful!