OK, need some help here.

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Originally Posted by Gio

Yep,

An "advanced" species.

The pattern behavior could very well be a part of it. But like Zig said that doesn't mean it should be rewarded with food.

They all want food, cripes sometimes I even want food. Drive by a steak place and I'll push too LOL!

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Yeah, I really don't want to get him into that pattern lol. I do think he was playing me though after bcr mentioned her retics do the same thing to her!! On a plus note though, his 2 scrapes on his chin have completely healed as I checked again today when I was changing his hides and shoving him around the cage lol. He kept coming over to see what I was doing as I was stirring his Eco Earth and stuff. I had to shove him off me lol. I gave him the new hide when I got half the cage turned so that would occupy him while I turned the rest of the Eco Earth lol. I know the day he tags me, I'm going to be in shock haha. It's just if Rosey ever bit me, I'd probably die from shock as nothing you do to her seems to startle her lol. She is just so easy going.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Yeah, I really don't want to get him into that pattern lol. I do think he was playing me though after bcr mentioned her retics do the same thing to her!! On a plus note though, his 2 scrapes on his chin have completely healed as I checked again today when I was changing his hides and shoving him around the cage lol. He kept coming over to see what I was doing as I was stirring his Eco Earth and stuff. I had to shove him off me lol. I gave him the new hide when I got half the cage turned so that would occupy him while I turned the rest of the Eco Earth lol. I know the day he tags me, I'm going to be in shock haha. It's just if Rosey ever bit me, I'd probably die from shock as nothing you do to her seems to startle her lol. She is just so easy going.

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Yeah,

I think your boas probably won't ever bite you unless you make a grave error.

Retics are great, busy and fun but require a bit of extra care and work. Not rocket science, but for some they are too much. Some folks like lap dog snakes. I certainly am one of them, but I like to have some action too.

Wallace has been staring me down since I took the shed out so he's ramping up for dinner I'm sure.

Sniper was pushing (my boa) hard for a while. I used the same method JM mentioned, although modified for my cage. It worked. He didn't feel the little area where air was coming through, and the was really no gap so he gave up.

Keep us posted.

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Originally Posted by Gio

Yeah,

I think your boas probably won't ever bite you unless you make a grave error.

Retics are great, busy and fun but require a bit of extra care and work. Not rocket science, but for some they are too much. Some folks like lap dog snakes. I certainly am one of them, but I like to have some action too.

Wallace has been staring me down since I took the shed out so he's ramping up for dinner I'm sure.

Sniper was pushing (my boa) hard for a while. I used the same method JM mentioned, although modified for my cage. It worked. He didn't feel the little area where air was coming through, and the was really no gap so he gave up.

Keep us posted.

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Yeah my boas never really pushed. Vicky would stick her head kind of down there but just enough to flick her tongue in there and when nothing, she backed out. Caesar just goes gung ho and shoves his whole fat head down lol. I swore he was going to get stuck a few times. The boas investigate...Caesar just dives in hahaha.

And yeah I like the lap snakes too. Rosey is my big puppy dog that I just drag out and throw around on me and tote around lol. I can do it with Vicky too but not as carefree as Rosey. I think in another year, she will be like Rosey.

Retics are awesome lol. They definitely keep you busy and like I said, you gotta watch them sneaky buggers. I think Caesar was playing me for free food by shoving his head in the doorway and darting out every time I walked by giving me the cocked head and big eyes 'you're starving me to death' look hahaha!!!

And what the heck folks!!! No likes for those Caesar begging for food pics!!! I think you people have been too spoiled with all the Caesar pics!! ;)

Well if it helps, I saved the photos!

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I just adore your Caesar! Totally adorable. I so wish they came in a small, single-person-handling, size. Is there any such species out there like Retics? And are legal in NYS?

Lol I was looking at the pics myself and I totally had the thought of those little clown cars where you see like 10 clowns come out of. That little hide has a 5'+ retic in it haha. I did upgrade him though to a much large hide now. He definitely gives the tail up approval as he is camping in it now with his head poking out.
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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Yeah my boas never really pushed. Vicky would stick her head kind of down there but just enough to flick her tongue in there and when nothing, she backed out. Caesar just goes gung ho and shoves his whole fat head down lol. I swore he was going to get stuck a few times. The boas investigate...Caesar just dives in hahaha.

And yeah I like the lap snakes too. Rosey is my big puppy dog that I just drag out and throw around on me and tote around lol. I can do it with Vicky too but not as carefree as Rosey. I think in another year, she will be like Rosey.

Retics are awesome lol. They definitely keep you busy and like I said, you gotta watch them sneaky buggers. I think Caesar was playing me for free food by shoving his head in the doorway and darting out every time I walked by giving me the cocked head and big eyes 'you're starving me to death' look hahaha!!!

And what the heck folks!!! No likes for those Caesar begging for food pics!!! I think you people have been too spoiled with all the Caesar pics!! ;)

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I checked them at work on my cell. (pictures) I go back and "Like" them!

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Originally Posted by DLena

I just adore your Caesar! Totally adorable. I so wish they came in a small, single-person-handling, size. Is there any such species out there like Retics? And are legal in NYS?

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Thanks. Caesar is awesome. He's my little man lol. Well Caesar is a superdwarf/dwarf and mainland retic male. Kris at Vital Exotics said he should get to about 7' tops with normal feedings. I am planning for 10' so I don't get surprised in a bad way lol but if he stays smaller, all the better. 10' is fine for a single person to handle. Just got to take precautions like with any large constrictor, even the ultra mellow ones. Never wrap them around your neck. Snakes do get startled and their instinct is to tighten up. They also will do that if they feel they are going to fall. Well our instinct when we cant breath with something around our neck is to try and grab and loosen it. The snakes instinct is to tighten even more. An finally our bodies response to lack of air is to fall over dead. Wasn't the snakes fault, he wasn't trying to be malicious and kill you or eat you, he was just scared or startled and being a snake. My bigger snakes, I usually drag them out and sling their head and 1/3 of their body over my shoulder so their head is hanging down my back and then I cradle the rest of them with my arms. I always will sometimes throw them over a shoulder and then drape them down my back and reach around and support their bum with my arm that they don't have their head on my shoulder if that makes sense. But usually I do the first method. Only problem with that is you gotta watch where you're walking so you don't bonk their head on a doorway or wall lol. My girls love to stretch out and check stuff out as I walk so I have to be careful and Caesar is just a spazz and literally will stand straight up to touch the ceiling or stretch out to the front or sides to try and grab stuff.

And I don't believe retics are legal in NYC. I don't know about outskirts or anything. Best to just check with your county.

There are also Burmese pythons which I hear are like giant puppy ball pythons haha. I have never owned one so I cant actually answer it but that's just what I heard. I have no idea though of they are legal in NY either.

Thank you for all the feedback. I checked in Kenmore NY, where I live. The only problem is with snakes over 10 feet, and that's acceptable with a permit and inspection. My dum female is 7.5 feet and I can handle her very easily. How would an adult SD do in a cage 4 feet x 30 inches x 17.5 inches with a shelf or 6 feet x 30 inches x 17.5 with a shelf?
How is temperament? Are they like dogs, where the miniatures of a breed are overly nervous or prone to more diseases than the full- sized ones? Or would that not be an issue with a reputable breeder?

I'm sorry for hijacking your thread. I should have PM'd you. I just thought of that now.:tears: