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Urgent problem. Regurge.

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  • 11-13-2016, 04:30 PM
    cheosamad
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
    It was 100% RI and now I have a bigger problem. I only know that because one of my other snakes started showing tiny bubbles when she flicked her tongue today. This is really bad.

    Vet is still closed until tomorrow and I have nothing to bring them. Maybe if I bring my other snake that is showing signs they can help me anyway.

    In the meantime a breeder told me an option is drop my humidity and raise my temps to try to 'cook' out the infection? They said rasing my ambients to 88 and my hot spot to 93 and only offering water for a few hours every second day is a decent option if I'm early enough to help fight the RI in my entire collection.

    My issue with that is wont that overheat my snake? They wont even really have a decent temperature gradiant to regulate their heat.

    Any other suggestions would be appreciated right now. Until tomorrow I have no clue what to do. I don't want all of my snakes to die.


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  • 11-13-2016, 08:16 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
    Well, raising your temps a few degrees will help only to boost the animal's immune system. The definitive action is to get to the exotic vet so any pathogens can be identified and appropriate treatment started. Immediately switch your substrate to paper towels for the time being after deep cleaning the enclosure/s. Respiratory infections won't kill your reptiles but untreated and prolonged RI certainly will make them spiral downward and ultimately kill them.
  • 11-13-2016, 08:56 PM
    cheosamad
    Urgent problem. Regurge.
    We're actually at a vet as I type this but they need to refer me to an exotic specific vet so I can get better treatment. They said they're going to perscrive antibiotics. Should I administer these or should I wait until I see the exotic vet to go forward with treatment?

    In the meantime my husbandry has done a total 180. I already use paper towels but my ambient temps and humidity needed serious correcting which I've taken care of. Finally have an entire building at 86 degrees ambient and then 91 degree hotspots for my snakes.

    Final question. They've identified 4 of my 7 snakes as showing signs of RI. Since obviously my RI snakes have to be seperated from my non infected snakes does that also mean as I treat them they have to be seperated from one another or can they be treated in the same room?
  • 11-13-2016, 09:32 PM
    cheosamad
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
    Okay they reffered me to an exotic vet for tomorrow. They said Pennywise actually seems fine and his issue were totally seperate but I will be bringing him for an exam regardless.

    Ramen they said had some labored breathing but they dont know if its due to stress or something else. She will be coming in also.

    They told me Valak is not showing any signs of concern.

    The final is Cleo or 2000g normal and she is by far the worst. She has started bubbling and foaming at the mouth and also may have started developing mouth rot. They gave her a round of fluids and antibiotics and she is our top priority for treatment tomorrow.

    They told me my other 3 snakes were no cause for concern.


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  • 11-13-2016, 09:50 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Was a culture done on any of the animals of concern?
  • 11-13-2016, 09:51 PM
    cheosamad
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Was a culture done on any of the animals of concern?

    We actually don't have any poop that I could bring in. We're still waiting on one to freeze and bag. This place does not offer that service anyway. I'm hoping the exotic vet tomorrow does so I can get that done ASAP.


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  • 11-13-2016, 09:54 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cheosamad View Post
    We actually don't have any poop that I could bring in. We're still waiting on one to freeze and bag. This place does not offer that service anyway. I'm hoping the exotic vet tomorrow does so I can get that done ASAP.


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    Culture as in RI which means a swab of the mouth which should be done on any BP suspected to have a RI, to make sure it is indeed a RI (there are things far worse than RI that present themselves as RI at first) and that the appropriate antibiotic is being used (there are different causes for RI)
  • 11-13-2016, 09:59 PM
    cheosamad
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Culture as in RI which means a swab of the mouth which should be done on any BP suspected to have a RI, to make sure it is indeed a RI (there are things far worse than RI that present themselves as RI at first) and that the appropriate antibiotic is being used (there are different causes for RI)

    Ah. My apologies I misunderstood. I'm actually not sure I will ask when the vet comes back in because I actually didnt ask how they reached their diagnosis.


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  • 11-13-2016, 10:55 PM
    cristacake
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
    Wishing the best for you and all your BPs


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  • 11-13-2016, 11:54 PM
    KMG
    Did the vet ever make it back?
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