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Pet Owner vs Breeding

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  • 10-14-2016, 03:07 PM
    Kreature
    Re: Pet Owner vs Breeding
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KingWheatley View Post
    Please link me "solid advice" that I actually ignored that was offered that wasn't mixed with condescending attitudes and emotions. :/


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    This is exactly what I am talking about. Because one or two people start off being rude to you, you don't even realize that there are people giving you advice in the middle of it all. Those are the people you need to pay attention to and stop burning bridges.

    Again, not trying to be rude, but trying to be helpful.

    Pit's post here was not rude at all

    And although you responded to Eric Alan, it doesn't seem he was heeded

    This poster got completely ignored

    Same thread, also ignored

    This seemed innocent enough of a post. Not 100% on why this was met with any form of anger....?

    And literally this entire thread is filled with only reactions to "negative" posts and completely ignoring the innocent ones

    I'm not trying to be mean, but I really think you are just being really sensitive. If you aren't a a troll I recommend taking a break from the forum...

    In the future, post a topic if you have to, answer questions as they come, but let people discuss on their own. Let people voice concerns or opinions. They are entitled to their opinion as much as you are, and you shouldn't ever expect that they won't defend their opinion just because you think they are wrong. Much like you have information backing the "fact" you know, they have information that backs the fact they know.

    To offer my neutral opinion... As long as the snake isn't dying, hurt, or constantly in fear of such, you can keep doing what you are doing. Just chill, man. Snakes are chill pets, and need a chill pet owner.
  • 10-14-2016, 03:16 PM
    Ax01
    ok i have like 30-plus BP’s and snakes. they all have names and i consider them all pets. i try to rotate my handling and enjoyment of them. That said, i do plan to breed on a small scale. I believe the world of pet owners and breeders co-exist.

    also note that i have several BP’s in glass tanks, one in a PVC enclosure and the rest in racks or tubs. there are many ways to care for your BP and reach optimum husbandry. the thing is, there are a set of proven best practices (as outlined in the caresheet or provided by fellow forumers) that do work. for example, we know that PVC/plastic holds better heat and humidity than glass; we know that a tight black hide with 1 opening is better and more secure for a BP than a tall half-log with 2 openings; it’s obvious that if husbandry is on point, BP’s don’t need our help to bathe and shed; they will shed on their own. so u can keep your BP in a glass tank if u wanna and do things your way. just keep in mind that when there’s an issue and when u wanna troubleshoot it, most will always fall back on these best practices and rely on solid husbandry.

    lastly, your BP is not special or of greater intelligence than others. neither are any of mine. don’t try to anthropomorphize them and put them in danger/risk when they are out of their protected enclosures. neither are they a fearless Retic; they’re just scaredy lil pet rocks that like to eat and hide at their core. Enjoy them for what they are.
  • 10-14-2016, 03:31 PM
    KingWheatley
    Re: Pet Owner vs Breeding
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    ok i have like 30-plus BP’s and snakes. they all have names and i consider them all pets. i try to rotate my handling and enjoyment of them. That said, i do plan to breed on a small scale. I believe the world of pet owners and breeders co-exist.

    also note that i have several BP’s in glass tanks, one in a PVC enclosure and the rest in racks or tubs. there are many ways to care for your BP and reach optimum husbandry. the thing is, there are a set of proven best practices (as outlined in the caresheet or provided by fellow forumers) that do work. for example, we know that PVC/plastic holds better heat and humidity than glass; we know that a tight black hide with 1 opening is better and more secure for a BP than a tall half-log with 2 openings; it’s obvious that if husbandry is on point, BP’s don’t need our help to bathe and shed; they will shed on their own. so u can keep your BP in a glass tank if u wanna and do things your way. just keep in mind that when there’s an issue and when u wanna troubleshoot it, most will always fall back on these best practices and rely on solid husbandry.

    lastly, your BP is not special or of greater intelligence than others. neither are any of mine. don’t try to anthropomorphize them and put them in danger/risk when they are out of their protected enclosures. neither are they a fearless Retic; they’re just scaredy lil pet rocks that like to eat and hide at their core. Enjoy them for what they are.

    -_- do you even know what anthropomorphism is?

    It's putting HUMAN ATTRIBUTES on non human things.

    Intelligence, or having greater intelligence, isn't a human attribute.

    Also, I don't.

    If anything, I candidpromorphize (yes I just made that up) and put DOG ATTRIBUTES to non dog things.


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  • 10-14-2016, 03:33 PM
    KingWheatley
    Re: Pet Owner vs Breeding
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kreature View Post
    This is exactly what I am talking about. Because one or two people start off being rude to you, you don't even realize that there are people giving you advice in the middle of it all. Those are the people you need to pay attention to and stop burning bridges.

    Again, not trying to be rude, but trying to be helpful.

    Pit's post here was not rude at all

    And although you responded to Eric Alan, it doesn't seem he was heeded

    This poster got completely ignored

    Same thread, also ignored

    This seemed innocent enough of a post. Not 100% on why this was met with any form of anger....?

    And literally this entire thread is filled with only reactions to "negative" posts and completely ignoring the innocent ones

    I'm not trying to be mean, but I really think you are just being really sensitive. If you aren't a a troll I recommend taking a break from the forum...

    In the future, post a topic if you have to, answer questions as they come, but let people discuss on their own. Let people voice concerns or opinions. They are entitled to their opinion as much as you are, and you shouldn't ever expect that they won't defend their opinion just because you think they are wrong. Much like you have information backing the "fact" you know, they have information that backs the fact they know.

    To offer my neutral opinion... As long as the snake isn't dying, hurt, or constantly in fear of such, you can keep doing what you are doing. Just chill, man. Snakes are chill pets, and need a chill pet owner.

    FYI I thanked Pit on that post... -_- I didn't ignore him. I read the other posts as well. I just didn't respond to them because they weren't being rude. I'm not going to sit on my rump and let someone disrespect me when they don't even know me or what I'm going through. And none of them care.


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  • 10-14-2016, 03:35 PM
    Eric Alan
    This thread has run its course and is now locked. :lockd:
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