Total Albino Confusion

Okay someone put me outta my misery...is there a link to a sight with a pic of a Red Albino? (Google failed me! *sob sob*)

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Originally Posted by frankykeno

Okay someone put me outta my misery...is there a link to a sight with a pic of a Red Albino? (Google failed me! *sob sob*)

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Is this what you had in mind(closest thing i could find lol)

http://www.proexotics.com/pics_june0...20Ball_jpg.jpg

Or these(once again closest thing i could find)
http://www.proexotics.com/pics_june0...0fakes_jpg.jpg

Hope i helped

Brian

check out vpi's web page.....there might be something there if you look hard..

www.vpi.com

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Originally Posted by normballpython2

http://www.proexotics.com/pics_june0...20Ball_jpg.jpg

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Nope, not it :P

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Originally Posted by normballpython2

http://www.proexotics.com/pics_june0...0fakes_jpg.jpg

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Those aren't even real :P

-adam

Adam,

Are you saying the scale size/shape etc. is different on the granite albino or just the distribution of color on the scales?

Please add to the conversation with the morphs/names that I missed.

After I posted I saw on another site where I think the VPI animal is also being called Burgundy Albino so apparently Burgundy Albino = Red Albino can be added but we don't really know if it fits in with any of the others, in fact it might be closer to things like Paragon that didn't even happen to get "albino" in their name than to caramel but who knows.

I'm pretty sure I read about the Lavender X Caramel somewhere on the RDR site but I couldn't find it quick when I went to look for it before quoting it in another thread but saw someone else mention it sense so felt confident my memory was accurate. I probably won't bother looking at his birthing record this year until things start hatching.

Why do you think the albino X caramel cross is so unlikely? You’re probably right if it hasn’t happened by now but I’m trying to understand why. What are caramel hets running in comparison to albinos now days? Even if you don't think the theory that they could be alleles is worth the risk the cost isn't that great as albino gets cheaper. Of course caramels may be coming down faster so maybe the hets will stay well under albino price, especially for the males. Would a normal looking double het albino and caramel be worth less than a het caramel only? I guess if you think the combo would be dominated by albino some might say that but I would think they would be worth at least whatever normal caramel hets are worth and of course I think there is a real chance that the double hets wouldn’t be normal looking at all.

Sure a breeding year for a big albino female would be a big investment but you don't always have to go for the obvious albinos - for example you might still come out ahead this year treating an albino female like an extra normal and breeding to a spider. Even without the albino het premium a half clutch of spiders might be worth more than a full clutch of albinos. Especially if you where interested in eventually producing albino spiders.

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

check out vpi's web page.....there might be something there if you look hard..

www.vpi.com

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Yes - go to vpi.com

Scroll down about 1/3 of the way down the page & look for "Breeder's Bragging Post." Click on that to enter the bragging post.

Click on "Archive of 2005"

When that comes up, click on "March 2005."

The Burgundy Albino is the 23rd entry down the page.

K~

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Originally Posted by RandyRemington

Why do you think the albino X caramel cross is so unlikely?

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Because an adult albino female or adult caramel female would have way more value being bred to a spider, cinny, or genetic stripe male than to either a caramel or albino male respectively. Most people (actually, I've yet to find a single one) don't agree with you about the "allele thing" and think in reality that the amel will just end up washing out the caramel if you were to breed the double hets together. So why bother when there are other new morphs to be made that actually have market value.

I know you think it would be neat to see what happens, but a lot of people with these morphs are trying to run businesses and put food on the table and most don't have extra adult female morphs to play around with.

Maybe one day when adult female albinos and caramels are plentiful someone might take a stab at it, but by the time that day gets here you'll probably have beaten them to it with your possible hets ;)

-adam

I suppose even if albinos are getting pretty common, caramels still aren't and lots of people with a caramel male might also have a one of the more valuable ones you mentioned. Still getting to be enough caramels out there that maybe someone will have an albino female with nothing better to breed her to but by then even if they do prove to be alleles it will be too late to really make much of a financial difference.

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Originally Posted by RandyRemington

maybe someone will have an albino female with nothing better to breed her to

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LMAO!! .... good one!

-adam

Thanks so much Kara, I was having a bugger of a time trying to find a Red Albino and didn't know they were also called Burgundy Albino's so hadn't searched under that. Very nice looking snake.