My Hatchling Is Finally Eating, But Is He Emaciated?

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Originally Posted by treaux

Weird how your posts are doubling up.

What's nice is with the temperature gradient, your snake will show you what range it likes. My hotspot is set to 90, but sometimes when the RHPs are working hard top keep the ambient up around 80, the hotspot will get up to 94 or 95 or so. Every time I've seen that I've also seen both my snakes move on over to their cooler hide, where the temp is more around 80, so I know that 95 is more than either of my snakes wants to be on.

It's actually an odd issue I've been trying to solve. If I turn my hotspot temp down from 90, then when the RHPs turn off it will get too cool. Still trying to figure it out.

Anyways, most advice on here is good. If it isn't, it gets called out pretty quick. It's been a great resource for me getting started with BPs!

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Thank you, that's useful to know because i think i'm having the exact same issues! I just checked the humidity after i turned my temp up over night to test the 90°F the humidity had dropped to 50% :O (This was drastically different from the original 75% it was at the previous night) but the ambient temperature went to a perfect 80°F. I'm now misting more than twice a day now!

Humidity isn't a hard fix. Larger water bowl, if there's enough space, you could add a second water bowl. If there are more air holes in the lid of your tub than the side, cover a few. If you're using a screen lid, cover a portion of it with foil and place the water bowl under the foil. You could also position the bowl over part of your heat source.

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Originally Posted by SmoothScales

Humidity isn't a hard fix. Larger water bowl, if there's enough space, you could add a second water bowl. If there are more air holes in the lid of your tub than the side, cover a few. If you're using a screen lid, cover a portion of it with foil and place the water bowl under the foil. You could also position the bowl over part of your heat source.

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I already have multiple water dishes, but the biggest one is rather large. Those other tips i might look into but i just misted it when cleaning his tub and now it's 80% :O. He's now chilling on my lap tell his humidity lowers i didn't mean to spray his tank tell 80% humidity haha. Do i have to smooth the foil/get it to somehow stick because he might scratch himself on the foil/move it around?

If he's in a tub, you shouldn't need to mist at all really. Just control the airflow by how many air holes you have in the side. If humidity is getting to low, cover some of them up and it should come up. A tub will naturally have humidity if there is a water dish in it (assuming of course you have a top on the tub).

The foil goes on the outside so it shouldn't be an issue but I always fold the edges in so there's no accidental scratches. Since the snake won't be coming in contact with it you could also tack down the corners with a small piece of tape in the event you can't get it to stay.

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Originally Posted by treaux

If he's in a tub, you shouldn't need to mist at all really. Just control the airflow by how many air holes you have in the side. If humidity is getting to low, cover some of them up and it should come up. A tub will naturally have humidity if there is a water dish in it (assuming of course you have a top on the tub).

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How would you cover said holes up? because i have 2 water dishes already inside his tub? :confusd:


BTW what do you use to clean the tub? Disinfectants really needed? or just change his substrate?

What kind of tub are you using? Mine is a Sterilite style 34 quart. I made small holes along the side with a soldering iron for ventilation. If I want to cover some up, I can just put tape over them from the outside and the humidity level will go down. If I need less humidity, I can make more holes. That's the general idea.

I use Natural Chemistry Healthy Habitat Pet Habitat Cleaner and Deodorizer for cleaning. Costs about $20 for a gallon and I just spray and wipe everything down with it.

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Originally Posted by treaux

What kind of tub are you using? Mine is a Sterilite style 34 quart. I made small holes along the side with a soldering iron for ventilation. If I want to cover some up, I can just put tape over them from the outside and the humidity level will go down. If I need less humidity, I can make more holes. That's the general idea.

I use Natural Chemistry Healthy Habitat Pet Habitat Cleaner and Deodorizer for cleaning. Costs about $20 for a gallon and I just spray and wipe everything down with it.

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I actually believe i might have the exact same tub you have haha. Though i have to apologize for previous comments regarding temperature my poor BP Jörmungandr just had liquid diarrhea which i believe is due to the colder temperature :tears:. Though i am glad because i checked on him :please: (he was on top of my bed on a hide while i cleaned his cage) and noticed that all his bulge was towards his but and asked myself "Why is all his bulge towards his tail?" then as if i spoke of the devil his urate began to emerge through his large intestine. I panicked because i had taken all his paper towels out so i pointed his butt like a water gun at the paper towels (I did this all very gently he was in no panic and even relaxed enough to poop with me holding him) and he started pumping out liquid diarrhea. I had read that BP's poop doesn't smell that bad but i mean THAT WAS A LIE i was near gagging when i caught a whiff of this monstrous smell. He must've done a quickie because it was 2 pump n out type deal ;). Now i was paranoid and did a lot of research and i doubt it's parasites because he's pooped fine previously but i do believe it was due to his colder temperatures of being in the low 80°F's :tears:. I feel bad for my incompetence that he had to improperly digest his meal. He does look REMARKABLY better as a whole unit but his neck still is very saggy while the rest of the body now seems fine and lean with muscle. He shouldn't be dehydrated but the diarrhea has me worried. He's had 2 water bowls for about a week so he shouldn't be saggy from being dehydrated but i believe it's because he's in last stages of shed.

P.S: I doubt it was an irritated/frightened response because he was by no means squirming and he was already in the midst of "going" inside his hide on my bed. Plus he did that on his first ever day with me (taking him out of the shipping box and putting him in his cage) and he was frantically squirming like a corn snake then while just now he was already starting to put out his urate and was placid in my hand as i moved him over to his towel substrate to dump his load.

P.P.S: Sorry i wasn't aware swearing was an issue on these forums!

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Originally Posted by Snoop_Dong

I actually believe i might have the exact same tub you have haha. Though i have to apologize for previous comments regarding temperature my poor BP Jörmungandr just had liquid diarrhea which i believe is due to the colder temperature :tears:. Though i am glad because i checked on him :please: (he was on top of my bed on a hide while i cleaned his cage) and noticed that all his bulge was towards his but and asked myself "Why is all his bulge towards his tail?" then as if i spoke of the devil his urate began to emerge through his large intestine. I panicked because i had taken all his paper towels out so i pointed his butt like a water gun at the paper towels (I did this all very gently he was in no panic and even relaxed enough to poop with me holding him) and he started pumping out liquid diarrhea. I had read that BP's poop doesn't smell that bad but i mean THAT WAS A LIE i was near gagging when i caught a whiff of this monstrous smell. He must've done a quickie because it was 2 pump n out type deal ;). Now i was paranoid and did a lot of research and i doubt it's parasites because he's pooped fine previously but i do believe it was due to his colder temperatures of being in the low 80°F's :tears:. I feel bad for my incompetence that he had to improperly digest his meal. He does look REMARKABLY better as a whole unit but his neck still is very saggy while the rest of the body now seems fine and lean with muscle. He shouldn't be dehydrated but the diarrhea has me worried. He's had 2 water bowls for about a week so he shouldn't be saggy from being dehydrated but i believe it's because he's in last stages of shed.

P.S: I doubt it was an irritated/frightened response because he was by no means squirming and he was already in the midst of "going" inside his hide on my bed. Plus he did that on his first ever day with me (taking him out of the shipping box and putting him in his cage) and he was frantically squirming like a corn snake then while just now he was already starting to put out his urate and was placid in my hand as i moved him over to his towel substrate to dump his load.

P.P.S: Sorry i wasn't aware swearing was an issue on these forums!

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Actually i think it might have been caused by the increased in food size. This is his first time moving from pinkies to fuzzies! :snake::snake::snake: Lot of stress relieved i'm going to feed him late at night tonight if he has the runs again i will save a stool sample and drive to the vets. Praying it isn't parasites though because he's eating frozen and thawed and he has already had regular poops.

The larger food size will take longer to digest, and if the temps are too low, that increases the time it takes to digest... both of which give the food plenty of time to rot inside the belly. My guess would be this. Smaller prey, slightly higher temps and he should go back to regular poops.

The horrible smell is key here, because it didn't get properly digested. It's a disgusting odor for sure.