I am here to stay

Ugh. This whole thing is making my antsy to get my SD retic now instead of later when who knows if I can get what I want when we finally settle in our "permanent" state after moving to AZ for 3-5 years for nursing program and job experience. We are thinking about Idaho and I can't imagine that has a big reptile market. It just sucks because who knows what the future will hold and what if we end up having to move from where we think we'll stay. I don't want to commit a felony, but I wouldn't want to give up my snake(s). I can't imagine they'd find a snake packed away amongst all the other stuff while moving, but still a felony isn't anything to play with. Any anyone caught just makes us all look bad and furthers the stereotype and the problem we face. And people having them and sharing photos and such, then moving to another state, and more photos of same snake, is pretty obvious.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

It's all good as long as you never move out of state or have to take them for vet care. Pet owners will see very little blow back. But just think, Now you will never own a pied retic, or a cow, or a golden child.. EVER. the guy one state over will get to keep them but what you have now is all you'll ever legally get to have.

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IMO, that is why we are donating specifically to the defense fund and the lawsuit! We are going to stand strong with USARK and oppose this legislation. It's absolutely insane and criminal what the USFWS did. Reptile owners have no control over the climate and it's tropical storms and hurricaines that have notoriously been a problem in south florida for decades. They are using large constrictor owners as scapegoats! We really have to support each other and overturn this lacey act. We can do it, this is truly unacceptable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " Never say never". :gj: :gj: :gj:

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Originally Posted by Marrissa

Ugh. This whole thing is making my antsy to get my SD retic now instead of later when who knows if I can get what I want when we finally settle in our "permanent" state after moving to AZ for 3-5 years for nursing program and job experience. We are thinking about Idaho and I can't imagine that has a big reptile market. It just sucks because who knows what the future will hold and what if we end up having to move from where we think we'll stay. I don't want to commit a felony, but I wouldn't want to give up my snake(s). I can't imagine they'd find a snake packed away amongst all the other stuff while moving, but still a felony isn't anything to play with. Any anyone caught just makes us all look bad and furthers the stereotype and the problem we face. And people having them and sharing photos and such, then moving to another state, and more photos of same snake, is pretty obvious.

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Hey, that's why we have to stay committed to USARK and defeat this! Don't just give in to the USFWS! We have rights and we need to excersise them. The lawsuit that USARK is undertaking is our hope guys. Donate and speak up for each other! Peace! They [ USFWS] have to know that this cannot remain a law! We absolutely don't have to take this..... Peace. :gj:

I think the biggest risk would actually be while transporting the snake... i.e. cops pull you over for speeding and see the live animal box in the floorboard... Also, if you went to show "A" in state "A" then went home to state "B" you could be followed, etc.

Obviously, the more photos of the animals in question the easier it would be to prove that you got it from out of state.

BUT... I'm not advocating for breaking the law... I don't think it would be worth it.. Of course, I say that now. If boas get added and we move, I might be singing a different story.

I joined USARK this week and am hoping that they will get this overturned... But suing the fed. in a fed. court doesn't give you good odds... The branches of govt. tend to support the other branches more than they check them these days. :/

This is another good example of the govt. turning an above-ground legal trade into something that could easily become black market. *sigh*

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Sorry for the poop pic but I'm exhausted. Just got this girl set up in QT. I never thought I'd say this so soon but this is my Phantom Sunfire het genetic stripe girl! Dwarf blood of course ;)

Ha couldn't help yourself before this all settles could you? It's awesome to see someone adding to their collection instead of liquidating it. Hopefully in the next week I'll be able to say that I have a retic coming my way

I've added to my collection here in AZ as well. Just got a white albino sunfire at a show and am picking up a pure SD from a local breeder this weekend.

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Had to share.

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Finally took a nice photo in the QT rack last night of my new addition. And will have my second and last new retic from out of state this morning!

So pretty! So you raise your own feeder rabbits? I looked up the price of F/T rabbits the other day and damn that's a big food bill if not.

Retics are amazing snakes. I'm in alberta, (they are illegal here) but I got the chance to touch and see one a few weeks ago. Beautiful animals.


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