Average Price List?

I always look up what I am buying to find an "average" price

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Originally Posted by kylearmbar

As a community we need to stop trying to undercut the price to make a sale and hold to our guns. Otherwise we are going to ruin this hobby and eventually at the rate we are going there will be as many snakes in shelters as cats and dogs and some will habe to be put down. Id hate for it to get there. Ive seen recently a pastel het clown male for 50 dollars, i just shook my head. Wanted to get it, but just couldn't do it to the hobby.

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i saw a pair of clowns (one male and one female), both 9 months old, for $250.

not sure if that was $250 for the pair or per snake, but either way, it would have been an absolute steal.


which made me doubt the credibility of the ad, so i passed it up.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I also find it interesting how off topic this got :rolleye2:

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LOL since I was the one who brought up desert females, it was more along the lines of you just don't see them advertised since there's no "perceived" market for them. I'm guessing they are culled or fed off as they're "valued" less than even normal males. Supply - Demand - Price - Market ... it's all related. Buyers set the price, not sellers.

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Originally Posted by se7en

i saw a pair of clowns (one male and one female), both 9 months old, for $250.

not sure if that was $250 for the pair or per snake, but either way, it would have been an absolute steal.

which made me doubt the credibility of the ad, so i passed it up.

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Depends, there's an expression in pawn... the fast money is the low money. If the seller is motivated due to something like a job loss or unexpected bill, he may need to move animals for quick cash. That lowers the price. Or, it could be a scam as you pointed out.

Also not brought up but there's a collection sale over on Fauna now with some insanely low prices... because the seller admits some of the snakes have had recurring RI's for the last few months. Some buyers may decide to roll the dice on those snakes, and hope they don't come up craps. Not for me though.

i think i'll avoid buying snakes with health issues, no matter the price.

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Originally Posted by se7en

i think i'll avoid buying snakes with health issues, no matter the price.

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Some people like playing Russian roulette! Haha

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Originally Posted by bcr229

LOL since I was the one who brought up desert females, it was more along the lines of you just don't see them advertised since there's no "perceived" market for them. I'm guessing they are culled or fed off as they're "valued" less than even normal males. Supply - Demand - Price - Market ... it's all related. Buyers set the price, not sellers.

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They get sold or auctioned off as pet quality animals, usually about a quarter of the price you would pay for a comparable animal. Not many people actually seem to work with desert because of the reproductive issues, so they aren't all that easy to find anyway. I have a bit of an issue thinking about culling or feeding off ball pythons just because the perceived value is low, does anyone actually do this? I've seen normal males sold for 15 dollars at shows, and I'm pretty sure if nothing else chain pet stores would buy them up wholesale to sell as pets, killing them off just seems like an unnecessary and sad waste.

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Originally Posted by Redlude92

I wish there was Kelley blue book for snakes. I too wonder what is worth that and if I am over paying or getting a deal..

I vote someone start one up!

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I started a new website called MorphMarket, which lets you do super-specific searches on gene combinations, including hets to find out the going rate. Also it includes not only the current for sale but also previously listed data. Over 4,000 data points and growing.

In the future, this data can be used to produce current market price and trends for different morphs.

(I am only mentioning this site on here because it is exactly the topic of this conversation).

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Originally Posted by jplehmann

I started a new website called MorphMarket, which lets you do super-specific searches on gene combinations, including hets to find out the going rate. Also it includes not only the current for sale but also previously listed data. Over 4,000 data points and growing.

In the future, this data can be used to produce current market price and trends for different morphs.

(I am only mentioning this site on here because it is exactly the topic of this conversation).

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ask and yee shall receive!

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Originally Posted by Mr. Misha

. I see this phrase all the time "BPs are like Pringles". Well what happens when you get tired of eating Pringles? How many for sale threads are on here where people are "reducing" their collection or getting rid of the whole thing all together because "they don't have time"?

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But I love pringles. lol
I also know my limitations and capabilities when it comes to how large my collection can be and when to breed or skip it. They are pets, not commodities.
I, personally, use that phrase in regards to BPs because I'm a boa person and didn't expect to enjoy and like so many of the BPs.

I agree with many points in this thread about how difficult it can be to have a master price guide simply because of how quickly prices can drop, fluctuate and the variables involved. Also agree that breeding need to slow down (wishful thinking). People need to stick to their guns a bit more on pricing and not dump pricing just because one bad apple tries to spoil the bunch. The writings been on the wall for years and has/is happening with other species as well (like corn snakes for instance).

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Originally Posted by JMBall's

Generally speaking it's not the guys like Wilbanks, NERD or BHB that drive prices down.

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Hmm and who was it that bred bananas to everything under the sun and flooded the market?
Maybe I am not remembering correctly... but the big guys have the income to get in on the next hot thing early, breed a bunch of them, make their money and then move on to the next thing.

The 'glory days' when the first pieds for $20k. *takes off rose colored glasses* I'm still shocked how quickly pricing on things like albinos dropped. Ahh business. I guess it's inevitable.