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Originally Posted by Tigerhawk

Listen everyone, before you go any further with your comments. Check out the breeding forum , look at I believe I have a question, by the original poster. You will get no where with him. Just read the post, it's getting crazy. It's like climbing a mountain with oil on your hands. This guy does not want to listen, I have no idea why he even asks questions. Just read his post in the breeder section. It seems he is asking the same questions here as he did over there. I guess he thinks he's talking to a totally different set of people.

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Originally Posted by Tigerhawk

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rage: WHY!!

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Plainly insulting someone will make climbing that mountain impossible. What ever happened to responsible education? There is a right way and a wrong way to educate someone, you and any others making posts like these are not helping and need to stop.

As for these two and possible ovulation; how long have you had them in together? If you have had them in together for as long as you've had them and have never had eggs before, are you totally sure about their sexes? Is it possible you have two females, or even two males?

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Originally Posted by Reinz

LL, I understand what a Cinny, Granite, or some others SHOULD look like. My point is they don't, yet they get credit for it while they look more "normal".

And I will accept ignorance on my part as well.

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I think that comes down to people breeding snakes that aren't very high quality. It seems like a lot of people get into this hobby with a lot of enthusiasm, but not much discretion or patience. The result is getting a lot of really "meh" snakes passed off.

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Originally Posted by Lizardlicks

I think that comes down to people breeding snakes that aren't very high quality. It seems like a lot of people get into this hobby with a lot of enthusiasm, but not much discretion or patience. The result is getting a lot of really "meh" snakes passed off.

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I'd have to agree you can see a huge difference in high and low quality/apperance of any of the designer morph snakes and you have to start with the best of any given morph to make some of the stunners we see in pictures and those pictures often are that breeders HOLD BACKs I want the hold backs! A snake that is carrying a gene does no make it a prime example and they vary as much as normals it seems

I wasn't trying to be insulting. Just read the other thread. ( The truth hurts some times).;)

what's a reason for this young lady's size after eating last on the 26th of this month and NO lockups that i saw unless she had some stored away for a rainy day..

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...psb8dac5f7.jpg

The 26th was only what 4-5 days ago? She could be holding in a massive bowel movement that she's saving for the perfect moment.

In previous threads, you've stated that you've had her for over 5 years? During that time (if properly maintained and fed) ball pythons tend to get a little chubby, mainly because they are overfed in captivity. I have an 8 year normal ball that is 2,500 grams, and still gaining.

Again, in previous threads, you've stated that they have been together in the same cage, for 5 years. If you've not seen any locks, or she has never laid once in those 5 years, I highly doubt she's that big because she's gravid. One question was asked in one of your previous threads on gender, are you positive that you even have a male and female? You may have two males, and every so often you may see them "lock" but in reality they are fighting for dominance. If you have two females, you may have a .0000001% chance to get eggs from parthenogenesis, but that is so rare that it almost never happens.

This is also quite similar to the thread you made a few days ago: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...php?222537-Why myself, and others have already tried to help you.

thanks for the reply, she moved a bowel last night/this morning so i cleaned it out when i got up, the two i have are brother and sister and before you get started i already know the risks of having them breed another reason i'm getting the 100% het male in 2 days, don't care what type of het it is, that just means to me that i gotta start out with whatever comes out of her.. she's staying on the "cool side" of her tank and i have a small fan on top of that side, so iono what's going on with her..

I've read the other threads about this subject and just haven't said anything. Do you think people are lying when they tell you that breeding a 100% het ANYTHING to your NORMAL female will give you a litter of normals that you'll hardly be able to give away, much less make money off of? You'll lose money on this breeding adventure.
This forum isn't filled with a bunch of mean people who want you not to breed so you'll lose money. Everyone is trying to keep you from ending up with a bunch of baby snakes that you can't make money off of but still have to find time and money to care for.

Also, the same people read and reply to the different sections of this forum... You won't get different answers by posting in a different section.

You said that you're getting a 100% het, male in two days, and you don't care what type of het it is.... You are aware, that if you breed a 100% het, regardless of what its het for, to a normal, all you are going to get is ALL NORMALS.

I understand that you have to start somewhere, but at least do your research first. You're wasting what little money you have by buying a het.

And why on earth do you have a fan pointed in the cage? That's a good way to get a respiratory infection...

I'm double posting. Here I've done the work for you, here is the Genetic Wizard from World of Ball Pythons.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wi...ale=1:1&female=

This is a good way to determine what your chances are when breeding snakes. Since you don't care what type of het you are getting, I just chose a male that is het for albinism, and a normal female (which you have). When mated, you get.... ALL NORMALS, with 50% being het for albino, meaning they are still NORMAL, but MAY produce albinos when bred together.