Omg mites burn everything

the black dots appear to be the first banana speckles.

also i have to say i dont see spider. sure, its much lighter than the clutchmate, but spider is a pattern morph and should be really visible in the pattern. maybe it got some other gene that is making it so much lighter than the other banana in the clutch?

maybe it was just one random bug, combined with the first speckles.

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Originally Posted by Pythonfriend

also i have to say i dont see spider. sure, its much lighter than the clutchmate, but spider is a pattern morph and should be really visible in the pattern. maybe it got some other gene that is making it so much lighter than the other banana in the clutch?

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I've hatched light and dark bananas, like most BP morphs they vary.

Light banana:

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...5BananaFe2.jpg

Darker banana:

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...alGlowFe-1.jpg

To show the difference here is the picture I posted earlier in the thread of a spider banana and a regular banana:

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...anaFemales.jpg

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I've hatched light and dark bananas, like most BP morphs they vary.

To show the difference here is the picture I posted earlier in the thread of a spider banana and a regular banana:

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...anaFemales.jpg

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I have faith Dave will send me the animals in the picture.
Without the action of paying for them my faith is empty.
Faith and action can work together to bring positive results.
Thats what your doing now.
Good luck.

Obligatory: well that escalated quickly. The beauty of the internet is, even on your bad days/weeks, you can proofread and stop what you've written. I've had a nightmare week that has physically made me ill (can barely eat) and may change my life and plans. Next time chill out and proof.

I know you've seemed to have resolved your issue, I just want to chime in because I've had a mite nightmare a few years ago. You definitely wouldn't just notice one mite. Definitely check under the chin (gently spread the scales) and around the eyes just to make 100% sure. You should be able to see mites there - and it should be easy since your banana is light in colour. There wouldn't just be one - especially as time has gone by.

I won't protest his genes. Lol, that wasn't what this post was about. I knew I was going to get heat about it before I even said the word spider. I have literally nothing to prove to you all. When I breed him to a normal and there are spiders in the clutch, that will be enough evidence to me. His father was a banana spider, and he looked EXACTLY like him when he was young. I do not care what anyone says on here about variations or normal bananas or light or dark- it doesn't matter. Next season I will get spiders. The end. I'll post the pictures for you. Granted, I'm sure half of you won't even believe it then. It's the internet. People won't believe something even if it is shoved down their throats and out the other end. I asked about mites. Not for your opinion on his genetics.

Not sure why people have to instill doubt. He is my banana spider. I will call him what I will. Thanks for that last half of completely unneeded advice.
-Bree

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Obligatory: well that escalated quickly. The beauty of the internet is, even on your bad days/weeks, you can proofread and stop what you've written. I've had a nightmare week that has physically made me ill (can barely eat) and may change my life and plans. Next time chill out and proof.

I know you've seemed to have resolved your issue, I just want to chime in because I've had a mite nightmare a few years ago. You definitely wouldn't just notice one mite. Definitely check under the chin (gently spread the scales) and around the eyes just to make 100% sure. You should be able to see mites there - and it should be easy since your banana is light in colour. There wouldn't just be one - especially as time has gone by.

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I completely agree. I thought I was going insane because I only ever saw one living thing move, but everything else was just a tiny speckle- underneath the skin. So I am assuming a banana spot. I am a bit done with a fiasco. I literally scrubbed and sanitized every possible thing in the apartment and I'm finally calm with the incident. I am little left over annoyed with how the direction of this forum post went, but that's how it always happen. You say orange, people start talking about mustangs. I expected it. Thanks for understanding. I checked all his little nooks and crannies. He's clean as a whistle :)

I guess to give a bit of background of the banana because I became sort of defensive, I'll explain a bit on him. When I got him from a breeder in Cincinnati, it was from a man who bred not only one but two panda pied in his life. He breeds tons of pied projects mainly but was convinced this particular banana spider was something special. I took him to the Louisville herpetologist who is also a VERY versed ball python and burmese breeder with a variety of contacts. Both of them were convinced it was a banana spider with an unusual head pattern. Now I know it doesn't make any sense to you all and I become pretty defensive off the bat because Lord do I hate being told all the time it's just a banana. But I have taken him to some of the most renown breeders and they all argue but agree it is a spider. The only way to prove it of course is to breed him this season and I will, but until then I refuse to let people call him "just a banana". It drives me mad.

He is so much more. Images can't capture it, but he has a faint vivid orange pattern on his head that grows literally almost every day. Yet the purple "normal" head pattern fades. He IS a banana spider. So I am sorry I exploded. I am a bit sick and tired of explaining the same story over and over again for people not to listen. It gets a bit old. For a community who believes so much in mutation, it's odd that they can't place a little hope that mine is a bit more special than most. Depressing really. But again, I have Faith. So anyway, that's the end of my speech. Mite problem is fixed. Thank you all again. Have wonderful nights.
Goodnight from 'Nana.

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I won't protest his genes. Lol, that wasn't what this post was about. I knew I was going to get heat about it before I even said the word spider. I have literally nothing to prove to you all. When I breed him to a normal and there are spiders in the clutch, that will be enough evidence to me. His father was a banana spider, and he looked EXACTLY like him when he was young. I do not care what anyone says on here about variations or normal bananas or light or dark- it doesn't matter. Next season I will get spiders. The end. I'll post the pictures for you. Granted, I'm sure half of you won't even believe it then. It's the internet. People won't believe something even if it is shoved down their throats and out the other end. I asked about mites. Not for your opinion on his genetics.

Not sure why people have to instill doubt. He is my banana spider. I will call him what I will. Thanks for that last half of completely unneeded advice.
-Bree

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Do you have pics of the sire, or a link to the sire on the breeder's website/FB/etc?

His mother was a normal. His father was a banana spider. Banana spiders don't all look the same. If you don't believe me look up Loxahatchee herp hatchery on FB. Their banana spiders look almost exactly like mine. But mine is NOT of their blood line whatsoever. People need to stop believing everything looks like the picture straight from the textbook.
Mutations are literally the embodiment of breaking the genetic boundaries or rules of the bloodlines before them. Oh and to make things better, mine is only 3 months old. He hasn't even settled into a lick of his color, yet.
Have fun researching. They are based in FL. Hope your minds are blown.
-B

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoxVCOsCMAMdXPi.png:large



Banana spider looks a little like mine if you ask me. And notice that? Odd head pattern. Fantastic. Goodnight. Message them for more details. I am not getting into it any further. Not my hatchery.

This is the only banana spider I see on Loxahatchee's FB:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...levant_count=1