My bee keep on regurgitating the rat.

I think regardless of where you live, ambient temperatures or not, you need a thermostat and humidity gage. When you take an animal out of its natural environment and keep it in captivity you are responsible for replicating that environment as closely as possible. You can't do that if you have no idea what the temp is of that enclosure. So what if it is 90 degrees outside. What if he has his enclosure sitting near a stove or furnace causing the air inside the enclosure to rise above 100 degrees fahrenheit and stay that way all day? He could be slowly cooking his snake and not even know it, and why? Because he has no way of monitoring the temperature inside the enclosure. Whether this guy lives in a tropic climate or a freezing one he needs to have some kind of mechanism telling him what the temp and humidity is in the enclosure.

As for big breeders not using heat sources, hides, etc? I am well aware of that, however, they also have climate controlled facilities, and large breeder racks that are designed to keep the tubs in darkness to make the balls feel secure. That is a totally different situation than having a ball python in a solitary plastic container with no hide, no heat source, and no way to monitor the environment inside the enclosure. End of story.

Now moving on to the OP problem. Lets give him the benefit of the doubt and say his temps and humidity are fine. Then either something is wrong with the rats he's feeding his snake (and one every two weeks is not enough), or the snake has a medical condition and needs to be taken to the vet. Again, usually when a ball goes off feed it is because something is wrong with its environment, and how can he know whether the environment is stable if he has no temp gauge? Where I live it is always 10 degrees hotter inside than out, and some rooms, depending on which way they are facing, are upwards of 20 degrees hotter than outside without AC. His geographic location has nothing to do with whether or not his temps are healthy for his snake.

You have no heat source and you're wondering why you're snake can't digest his food? Come on...


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You have no heat source and you're wondering why you're snake can't digest his food? Come on...

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not entire true. they are less likely to strike at you when in their enclosure if you feed them in a separate container. Also, feeding them in the same container as their enclosure might make them accidentally swallow substrate along with their meal.

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I think regardless of where you live, ambient temperatures or not, you need a thermostat and humidity gage.

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A thermostat is only needed IF you are using a heat source.

I'm going to leave this thread before I do something I might regret.
You judgmental new keeper should hope to go SEVEN YEARS before you have any problems.
Got to love the younger generation that thinks they know more that some of us have forgotten....................

Are you telling me you have no way to monitor the temps of your balls? Really? And while I may not have kept snakes for decades upon decades, I have kept them for over ten years, and I've never heard of anyone advising not to monitor temps. And to date the only major problems I've ever had in my reptiles are from the ones I've adopted that were sick, and I adopted them solely to save them from neglectful owners. I take a great deal of pride in providing the best care for my animals that I can, and I refused to be shamed for that. I've seen big collections, small ones, professional ones, and everything in between, and not one of them has simply taken for granted their temps because the temperature outside was in the 90's. Some people do use climate controlled facilities because their collection is far too large to have a heat source or thermostat for every single tub or enclosure, but I don't know any that ignore their temps completely. I don't know one that would advise to ignore temps completely simply because of a geographical location.

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Are you telling me you have no way to monitor the temps of your balls? Really? And while I may not have kept snakes for decades upon decades, I have kept them for over ten years, and I've never heard of anyone advising not to monitor temps. And to date the only major problems I've ever had in my reptiles are from the ones I've adopted that were sick, and I adopted them solely to save them from neglectful owners. I take a great deal of pride in providing the best care for my animals that I can, and I refused to be shamed for that. I've seen big collections, small ones, professional ones, and everything in between, and not one of them has simply taken for granted their temps because the temperature outside was in the 90's. Some people do use climate controlled facilities because their collection is far too large to have a heat source or thermostat for every single tub or enclosure, but I don't know any that ignore their temps completely. I don't know one that would advise to ignore temps completely simply because of a geographical location.

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If you're talking to P.O.P (New Nickname!), he said that you don't need a thermostat if you don't have a heat source. A thermostat is for regulation and a thermometer is for monitoring. Right?
I think you're talking about two different things.

And that first line is going in "out of context".

Heres the bumblebee im talking about. I already placed him in a warm area. Should i bring him to a vet asap? My vet is available mon-wed.

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That poor snake is insanely thin. You were right in describing him as emaciated. A vet visit wouldn't hurt to rule out anything that might be contributing to the problem - parasites, etc. I would take him just to be sure. He's looking pretty rough in those pics.

But that poor animal needs food. Not just yet, his digestive system needs some time to heal from the regurges. But after a couple weeks from the last regurge, give him a small meal and if he holds that down, you really need to do your best to feed him weekly to try to get his weight up.

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Really???
Look familiar

A thermostat is only needed IF you are using a heat source.

I'm going to leave this thread before I do something I might regret.
You judgmental new keeper should hope to go SEVEN YEARS before you have any problems.
Got to love the younger generation that thinks they know more that some of us have forgotten....................

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what are you trying to prove? those posts are completely different from each other. and has nothing to do with OP. let me make this perfectly clear for you. SNAKES (ball pythons) NEED HEAT ON THEIR BELLIES TO METABOLIZE THEIR FOOD. common sense would tell you that if he has no heat source for his snake, even if ambient temps are fine, then that's probably why the poor snake can't keep it down "after a few days". Maybe you should leave.


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The OP asks for advice so we give advice. if he doesn't want to listen to the solutions and keep wondering why it's not working, then guess what? have fun with your starving snake. just because I am a new keeper doesn't mean I haven't done more research than you. call me judgemental because I ask a simple question? my snake is perfectly happy and healthy. and how are yours doing?


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You can absolutely keep ball pythons without a hotspot.