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  • 12-16-2013, 10:36 PM
    patientz3ro
    Re: New baby BP / First time snake owner question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shadowsnakes View Post
    There are telltale signs that a BP is close to defecating. Mostly a raised tail tip and "sausage tail". Once you see it you'll know exactly what that means!

    Aww, man! You're nit supposed to TELL people that! That's one of those things everyone should learn through experience, Like I did...

    Twice.


    In a week.


    I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but that could also be a defensive reaction. Lots of snakes will empty their vents defensively.

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  • 12-17-2013, 12:40 AM
    Lemmywinkzz
    Re: New baby BP / First time snake owner question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    He told you he doesn't mind?

    How is it easier? Easier than dangling prey in front of a hide? doubt it.

    The vast number of members with several snakes in their collection feed in the cages and advise to do so as well. This information has come from years of experience not guessing what their snake wants.

    It would take an unreasonable amount of time and equipment to feed even my small collection in separate containers.

    I don't really appreciate the sarcasm, there's no reason to be that guy. I only have 1 snake and his tank is on top of a dresser. It's very simple for me to place him in a small container and be able to sit down and comfortably dangle the prey, then observe his process. This topic seems to be controversial, either way my snake is healthy and appears to be happy. In my eyes it seems to boil down to preference. Due to me only having 1 snake there is no inconvenience, as for the "accidental bitings" I've been handling him and he seems to know when he's in his bin it's food time. Other than that he's the sweetest little dude. I believe these collectors have random bites due to not handling thier snakes, besides during cleanings.
  • 12-17-2013, 12:42 AM
    Lemmywinkzz
    Re: New baby BP / First time snake owner question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by patientz3ro View Post
    Aww, man! You're nit supposed to TELL people that! That's one of those things everyone should learn through experience, Like I did...

    Twice.


    In a week.


    I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but that could also be a defensive reaction. Lots of snakes will empty their vents defensively.

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    Is there any signs that it may be defensive? He wasn't balled up or nipping at all, he seems to live being handled. When I try to put him back in his enclosure he keeps trying to go up my hand.
  • 12-17-2013, 01:41 AM
    KMG
    Re: New baby BP / First time snake owner question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lemmywinkzz View Post
    I don't really appreciate the sarcasm, there's no reason to be that guy. I only have 1 snake and his tank is on top of a dresser. It's very simple for me to place him in a small container and be able to sit down and comfortably dangle the prey, then observe his process. This topic seems to be controversial, either way my snake is healthy and appears to be happy. In my eyes it seems to boil down to preference. Due to me only having 1 snake there is no inconvenience, as for the "accidental bitings" I've been handling him and he seems to know when he's in his bin it's food time. Other than that he's the sweetest little dude. I believe these collectors have random bites due to not handling thier snakes, besides during cleanings.

    Ha, me sarcastic! Just wait til you meet some of the other members.

    Friendly jabs are part of the fun. Plus you have to admit you don't know if your snake actually enjoys it. As you will see it stated our snakes tolerate us, some better than others. They are not like a dog and would rather go without seeing you at all if possible.
  • 12-17-2013, 01:47 AM
    Crazymonkee
    Re: New baby BP / First time snake owner question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lemmywinkzz View Post
    I don't really appreciate the sarcasm, there's no reason to be that guy. I only have 1 snake and his tank is on top of a dresser. It's very simple for me to place him in a small container and be able to sit down and comfortably dangle the prey, then observe his process. This topic seems to be controversial, either way my snake is healthy and appears to be happy. In my eyes it seems to boil down to preference. Due to me only having 1 snake there is no inconvenience, as for the "accidental bitings" I've been handling him and he seems to know when he's in his bin it's food time. Other than that he's the sweetest little dude. I believe these collectors have random bites due to not handling thier snakes, besides during cleanings.

    No actually most accidental bitings happen from moving them around while in feeding mode... as in moving them to and from a feeding tub. That's what they are trying to explain.


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  • 12-17-2013, 02:04 AM
    KMG
    Re: New baby BP / First time snake owner question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crazymonkee View Post
    No actually most accidental bitings happen from moving them around while in feeding mode... as in moving them to and from a feeding tub. That's what they are trying to explain.


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    Crazymonkee he obliviously knows best. I bet he changes his POV real quick if he ever gets a gtp or blood. Move that to feed.

    I do have to admit I have never been tagged by my ball but I feed in her tank so maybe that's why. We are just trying to share some advice on a possible better more convienent way to feed your snake.

    Anybody here can tell you one turns into six quick. At that time your going to realize that separate feeding tubs is not efficient at all.

    Also while I still find it very fascinating to watch them eat you will find you stop watching after a while and you may find many snakes will not eat while being watched. But that's just experience talking again. What do I know? I'm just that guy.
  • 12-17-2013, 02:11 AM
    200xth
    Re: New baby BP / First time snake owner question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lemmywinkzz View Post
    I believe these collectors have random bites due to not handling thier snakes, besides during cleanings.

    I don't care if you feed him in a special tub. I think it's asking for trouble, but some people do it and do it successfully. If you can make it work for you, that's all that matters.

    Most of the time, ball pythons will do anything they can to avoid having to bite you. They'll hiss, they'll ball up, they'll sit there, they'll try to get down, they'll try to get up, they'll try to run away and hide...anything but try to bite. Biting is usually last for most BP's which is partially why they are such popular pets. Small and relatively passive dispositions most of the time.

    Scent the room with rodents and wave your hands around and it's a different story. This is kind of what you're doing when you move them to a separate tub.
  • 12-17-2013, 10:58 AM
    Lemmywinkzz
    Re: New baby BP / First time snake owner question
    That's all I'm saying, it works for me and hasn't caused a problem. This being such a controversial topic and with there being no correct answer, then there is no harm done. It all comes down to preference and personal experience. Just because someone got bit feeding in a seperate enclosure doesn't mean I will. There's to many variables to factor in to simply say "a ball python will bite you if you feed it in a seperate tank".
  • 12-17-2013, 12:05 PM
    The Flying Henry
    Welcome! :gj:

    I've had a python poop on me fresh out of the delivery box. You never know...I doubt he was expelling in fright.

    Great advice here, especially on where to feed. Keep your mind open. Good luck!
  • 12-17-2013, 01:05 PM
    Lemmywinkzz
    Re: New baby BP / First time snake owner question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Flying Henry View Post
    Welcome! :gj:

    I've had a python poop on me fresh out of the delivery box. You never know...I doubt he was expelling in fright.

    Great advice here, especially on where to feed. Keep your mind open. Good luck!

    Thanks, I most definitely will. Honestly the only reason I feed him in a seperate enclosure is because that I heard if they ingest aspen, that it could be harmful.
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