Extremely malnourished ball

I wouldn't say it at all because snakes will starve themselves. So I would never say it, regarding any content, and yes ROACH I did correct you because I've seen balls first hand starve themselves.

She used it in a different content though which is probably why nobody said anything.

If she would of said something like all snakes will eat if they're eventually or something similar to that then I'm sure others would of corrected her. It's just how she worded it that's all my friend.

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Originally Posted by Neal

I wouldn't say it at all because snakes will starve themselves. So I would never say it, regarding any content, and yes ROACH I did correct you because I've seen balls first hand starve themselves.

She used it in a different content though which is probably why nobody said anything.

If she would of said something like all snakes will eat if they're eventually or something similar to that then I'm sure others would of corrected her. It's just how she worded it that's all my friend.

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Im not like someone else, Im not going to argue with you here lol. I understand. Ive just never had a snake actually starve themselves to the point of death. Eventually they have eaten, for me that is. Im deffently not saying your wrong, just havent experienced it myself.

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Originally Posted by ROACH

Im not like someone else, Im not going to argue with you here lol. I understand. Ive just never had a snake actually starve themselves to the point of death. Eventually they have eaten, for me that is. Im deffently not saying your wrong, just havent experienced it myself.

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Oh I know what you're saying. I'm not saying it's common they do it but it has happened before. But because it hasn't happened to you, you didn't think it does happen so you tell the OP who's new that it won't happen and it ends up happening then they blame you and it's because of something you haven't experienced. That's why I corrected you when you had said what you did in the other thread.

For instance I have a friend who had a snake that was born with only half of a lower jaw. The snake won't eat and it most likely won't. It'll end up starving itself to death and while probably no person has the answer why they do this, it happens. It's sad but it's the real truth. The snake would probably have to end up being assist fed for the rest of its life which would be extremely stressful.

Then on the other hand I have another friend who has a snake with no eyes and he eats very well, he's like 500 and something grams. Then I know another person who has a snake that only has one eye that is a very problem feeder. I can't tell you why BPs do what they do and chances are nobody will ever be able to give an accurate reason.

Not to get off topic but I fully agree they will starve themselves... case in point my hatchling that didn't eat for 2 months, no matter what I tried, she took the live within a minute of it hitting her tank floor, and has ever since
I was not willing to find out if she'd hold out longer than me.

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Not to get off topic but I fully agree they will starve themselves... case in point my hatchling that didn't eat for 2 months, no matter what I tried, she took the live within a minute of it hitting her tank floor, and has ever since
I was not willing to find out if she'd hold out longer than me.

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I understand they will starve themselves. I think my whole point was that if you try ALL means of feeding, I believe they will eat eventually. Im defentlly not saying may not, I just believe they will. Now if you dont try everything and lets say only try F/T....yes they may starve themselves to death. In the case with your baby, if you only kept trying what you were, then maybe it wouldnt of turned out as good. You tried something different and the baby ate. Thats all I was trying to say.

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I understand they will starve themselves. I think my whole point was that if you try ALL means of feeding, I believe they will eat eventually. Im defentlly not saying may not, I just believe they will. Now if you dont try everything and lets say only try F/T....yes they may starve themselves to death. In the case with your baby, if you only kept trying what you were, then maybe it wouldnt of turned out as good. You tried something different and the baby ate. Thats all I was trying to say.

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Now put that way ... yes. (Although some really stubborn ones may need assist fed). But just to say they will all eat eventually is very vague and misleading.

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Folks, if you need to continue the discussion about whether BPs will starve themselves or not, please start a new thread. I know you didn't mean to hijack, but let's not forget why the OP posted in the first place.

BTW - Good luck and keep us posted!

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Originally Posted by Deborah

This, nice and slow as Robin mentioned

:colbert: I do not recommend this, if this animal is eating (and it has take it's first meal), this will only create unnecessary stress.

Again feeding smaller preys every 5 to 7 days until the animal gets back into a better shape is what is needed here and of course in the meantime, small living area, minimum handling, I would not even worry about the stuck shed at this point either not until you can get several meals in her.

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Deborah, I mentioned it as a last resort. Obviously, you would not force feed a sickly animal when it's eating on it's own. Only tube feed as that would be the last choice if it's not eating at all.

Oh my god that poor thing! :( I really hope she keeps her mice down and makes a strong recovery.

She ate today second time, pre-killed mouse. She atacked almost instantly, strangled and swallowed it. I guess she's not that bad feeder after all :)