Scaleless Ball Pythons?!

due to hatch end of september. and i spotted really red veins. i guess we have to sit tight for a week or two before they are out of the egg.

banana scaleless? yes please. i'm guessing these will need to be fed strictly frozen thawed..

this popped up on my facebook news feed. i guess a 100% scaleless ball has been hatched in captivity before. it didn't live past 800 grams, but i think it's interesting how its pattern continues onto its belly. with dogs and other animals, when you shave them down you can often see a pattern on their skin that doesn't show up on their fur. makes me think all balls have pattern on their bellies, but the belly scales cover them up. kinda cool.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1038825&type=1

eugene bessette of ophiological services 2007

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Originally Posted by ball-nut

Good point, considering the elasticity needed for eating, it's either going to be small meals or ripped skin if not thick enough.

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I think its going to come down to that they will need fed frozen and have there hand held. Definitely cool, I don't think I want one though because if I remember correctly Mike Willbanks talked about how the guy with the first Derma ball let it die.

It had a series of health problems and the guy wasn't experienced enough so it didnt get bred off, it was said that the guy should have passed it off and sold it for a nice chunk of change to one of the bigger breeders. But I guess the guy refused the offers?

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Originally Posted by TheSnakeGeek

this popped up on my facebook news feed. i guess a 100% scaleless ball has been hatched in captivity before. it didn't live past 800 grams, but i think it's interesting how its pattern continues onto its belly. with dogs and other animals, when you shave them down you can often see a pattern on their skin that doesn't show up on their fur. makes me think all balls have pattern on their bellies, but the belly scales cover them up. kinda cool.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1038825&type=1

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That's really cool to see! I'm surprised it lacks the belly scales because if I'm not mistaken, someone who knows better can chime in, the scaleless rat snakes maintain their belly scales. It's sad to see that it didn't make it though.

~CRR

I'm with JLC, I trust Brian with this project because he has a passion for ANIMALS and not just money. If there's serious health defects then I trust him that he would not continue that line if breeding.

Interview w/ Brian.

http://www.herpnation.com/audio/ra19-092113/

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Originally Posted by BWyant

Interview w/ Brian.

http://www.herpnation.com/audio/ra19-092113/

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very interesting and informative :)

he also talks about the deme ball, and the other scaleless one, and how they did.

main difference seems to be: Brians scaleless ones are proven genetic. and since they are not recessive, but a super-form of the scaleless head BPs, he can make more.


but they seem to still be in the egg, so we dont know much about their health. Anyway he plans to share more pictures and to show the scaleless BPs at a show as soon as its possible.

Wouldn't missing belly scales make it very difficult for them to move? My current understanding of snake locomotion is that they are required for easy forward movement, but please correct me if I'm wrong.