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  • 09-07-2013, 03:39 PM
    wienkeg
    Re: WARNING for Florida herpers!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    And???


    don't leave us in suspense...

    and that would likely have made the situation worse...:rolleyes:
  • 09-07-2013, 03:42 PM
    wilomn
    Re: WARNING for Florida herpers!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steve_r34 View Post
    y dont u just tell them it was personal and that u couldnt take care of it no more .. that u dont sell them u were just selling this one cause u couldnt afford to keep it no more

    I'm guessing from the fact that you don't write English worth a crap that you are young. Perhaps stupid too. Lying is NOT the way to go.
  • 09-07-2013, 03:50 PM
    sho220
    Re: WARNING for Florida herpers!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wienkeg View Post
    and that would likely have made the situation worse...:rolleyes:

    I can't imagine how...



    /sarcasm
  • 09-07-2013, 03:50 PM
    Kodieh
    Lying would do damage to our already on the line hobby.

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  • 09-07-2013, 03:58 PM
    Expensive hobby
    WARNING for Florida herpers!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wienkeg View Post
    consult a lawyer, find out what the penalty is. (maybe just a little fine).

    if the penalty is less than a lawyer, fight it on your own. If the lawyer is less than the penalty, hire a lawyer. Sounds like a decent lawyer will rip this case to shreds. Actually, looks like you'd have a good shot:)

    Did they actually arrest you, or just give a ticket?

    Good thing it wasn't me, I would've drawn my weapon...


    Drawing a gun on an officer because you don't like what you are being cited for? That's incredibly stupid, irresponsible, and dangerous. If some scumbag drew on me for those reasons, or at all, he wouldn't have the ability to write about it on a forum.

    How could it have gotten worse? You could have been shot dead for your stupid actions. Dying over a ticket? Give me a break.

    Please don't come on here and talk about your desire to draw a gun illegally on an officer because you are too immature to handle situations like a responsible adult.

    /rant


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  • 09-07-2013, 03:58 PM
    ATTFighter
    So what would be the case for the tons of people who have just one ball python as a pet and are NOT breeders and just want to sell their ball python because maybe they don't want to take care of it anymore or have to move etc.? They have to get a Class III permit just to sell it? Or else they are stuck with it?
  • 09-07-2013, 04:00 PM
    ATTFighter
    Re: WARNING for Florida herpers!
    Just to let you know, if you would have drawn your weapon on the police, you would of been instantly shot and killed.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wienkeg View Post
    consult a lawyer, find out what the penalty is. (maybe just a little fine).

    if the penalty is less than a lawyer, fight it on your own. If the lawyer is less than the penalty, hire a lawyer. Sounds like a decent lawyer will rip this case to shreds. Actually, looks like you'd have a good shot:)

    Did they actually arrest you, or just give a ticket?

    Good thing it wasn't me, I would've drawn my weapon...

  • 09-07-2013, 04:10 PM
    wilomn
    Re: WARNING for Florida herpers!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ATTFighter View Post
    So what would be the case for the tons of people who have just one ball python as a pet and are NOT breeders and just want to sell their ball python because maybe they don't want to take care of it anymore or have to move etc.? They have to get a Class III permit just to sell it? Or else they are stuck with it?

    That is my understanding of the law from a guy who lives in Fla. and was very big into ball pythons for a long time. One or a hundred, you need the Class III to sell in the state.
  • 09-07-2013, 04:46 PM
    helmethead
    ******Did they actually arrest you, or just give a ticket?
    I was given a citation with a court date.

    ******OP, are you sure the other party wasn't part of the setup? That would make perfect sense, no call monitoring required.
    Oh, I'm sure he was an undercover FWC officer. My head was still spinning when I wrote the first post.
    Like I said, it was the first time in my life being handcuffed, and it freaked me out a bit.

    I'm not bashing the popo or anything like that, trying to give my fellow Floridian herpers
    a heads up. I checked the FWC site a while back when I first started having BPs
    and could not figure out if I needed a permit or anything, well now I know. :(
  • 09-07-2013, 06:14 PM
    wolfy-hound
    There's been a few threads about who needs permits in Florida.

    Yes, as far as I've been able to determine, you need the permit to sell ANY bp. even if it's "just one" or if "u couldn't keep it".

    Where did you advertise the snake for sale? How many snakes have you advertised that way in the last year(whether you sold them or not)? If you used craigslist, they probably trolled you up and nailed you that way.

    If you go to court, be prepared to tell them the truth about if you've sold other snakes if you contest it. They may have saved the other ads or whatever they find online about sales or potential sales you've made or offered to make. Otherwise, it may be easier to just take the fine and apologize and get the permit for the future.

    I get the permit if I'm going to have BPs to sell. Sometimes I've even been asked for my permit when I've sold to a petstore. Other than the stores, no one has ever asked, but I have it if I'm going to have babies to sell.

    It's a bit of paperwork and yes, it's "just a ball python" but to the FWC, it's yet another exotic snake that could be an issue if they were released in South Florida.
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