ALS - Acts Like Super

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Originally Posted by Coleslaw007

Tessadas, I'm starting to wonder, do you actually believe this crap or do you just have fun trolling?

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You know, since the past other genetic discussions on the forum, I was actually starting to wonder the same thing.....

It helps to bear in mind that, as a hobby, we misuse a lot of the terms involved.

We greatly simplify the genetics as that works well enough for what we require - it is very far from the truth of the molecular genetics involved however.

Exactly. If we're already simplifying, I personally see no reason to dumb it down even further. You enjoy the hobby? Cool, take a few minutes to learn at least the basics.

I'm not sure how many people I've talked to (in real life) who've been in the hobby far longer and had about zero clue how the genetics aspect worked, yet wouldn't believe me when I tried to explain it to them since I'm "a newb." I usually give up trying to explain, thank them for "teaching me," and let them carry on believing what they want. I'm talking definitely confused, like the guy who *insisted* I would get visuals, hets and poss hets from a hypo to morph hypo pairing.

I seriously don't even think I know much, I have a grasp of the fundamentals, but that's about it. There's TONS I have yet to learn, but I will make every effort to use the correct terminology and have a clear understanding of the basics at very least. How can I educate future customers if I don't bother to understand?

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

Sorry but you are the one spreading misinformation. Technically speaking the wild type phenotype is considered Dominant. Both the het and homo look the same. Co doms, in all living things, do not have 3 phenotypes.

You need only one dominant allele to express a dominant trait. Lesser is dominant to normal, or it could be that normal is dominant to lesser. Either way. If you breed a lesser to a normal you are going to get lessers and normals. If the hatchling gets one lesser allele from one parent and another normal allele from the other parent, that baby is going to be a lesser. The lesser allele is dominant over the normal allele. Simple fact.

Your theory on lesser and mojave is also incorrect.

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Classifications are based on a genotype vs phenotype relationship. I don't know how I can explain it to you any better, Paul explained it to you, I explained it in less words then felt like I expanded on it. I don't know what else to say, you have a total misunderstanding of classifications and apparently fail to even understand incomplete dominance and co-dominance.

As a total newbie to genetics I personally find allelic easier to understand. 'Acts Like Super' doesn't really seem to me a more accessible term because it hinges on someone having knowledge of what a super is, and how it acts. By the time someone is at the stage where they understand the concept of a super there is no reason why they shouldn't also understand the term allelic. I would think both terms/concepts are considered part of basic BP genetics. Using 'Acts Like Super' may also prevent people from forming a deeper understanding of what is actually going on with the genetics.

IMO, Acts Like Super is just an attempt to replace accurate jargon with inaccurate jargon. And as OhhWatALoser already wrote, we already have "compatible" as a non-scientific term. Two thumbs down on Acts Like Super.

There is so much about the genetics of these animals we don't understand. So me personaly I could care less what one breeder on a video felt to him like was the easiest way to describe how the genetics of an animal respond when bred out. "It's all wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff" anyway.. LOL

+10pts of you get the reference.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

There is so much about the genetics of these animals we don't understand. So me personaly I could care less what one breeder on a video felt to him like was the easiest way to describe how the genetics of an animal respond when bred out. "It's all wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff" anyway.. LOL

+10pts of you get the reference.

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^ What the good Doctor said. ;)

If anyone is still having a hard time understanding,may I suggest staying at a Holiday Inn Express!