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Snake needs help

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  • 05-14-2013, 02:20 PM
    obsidianembrace
    What KIND of mineral oil? That's so vague.
  • 05-14-2013, 02:38 PM
    TedMeisterSir
    Re: Snake needs help
    My snake reacted weirdly to PAM. I had to use SSD on him (Silver sulfadiazine).

    Id suggest using PAM on the enclosure and just rinsing off your snake in luke warm water, If any mites are on your snake your snake will usually jump in the water bowl to drown the mites himself either way. But yeah, after PAM, patches on my mojave looked weird and some came off, he's getting better now though.

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    My snake reacted weirdly to PAM. I had to use SSD on him (Silver sulfadiazine).

    Id suggest using PAM on the enclosure and just rinsing off your snake in luke warm water, If any mites are on your snake your snake will usually jump in the water bowl to drown the mites himself either way. But yeah, after PAM, patches on my mojave looked weird and some came off, he's getting better now though.
  • 05-14-2013, 02:41 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Snake needs help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TedMeisterSir View Post
    My snake reacted weirdly to PAM. I had to use SSD on him (Silver sulfadiazine).

    Id suggest using PAM on the enclosure and just rinsing off your snake in luke warm water, If any mites are on your snake your snake will usually jump in the water bowl to drown the mites himself either way. But yeah, after PAM, patches on my mojave looked weird and some came off, he's getting better now though.

    Did you use the PAM on the snake?? or on the enclosure. I'd like to know more about this reaction if it was just on the cage... If it was on the snake, you sprayed your snake with poison.
  • 05-14-2013, 02:55 PM
    mackynz
    Re: Snake needs help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FireStorm View Post
    Just want to emphasize...if the water feels warm to you, it will be HOT to your snake. Our body temp is about 98F, so if the water feels warm to you, it's going to be over 98 degrees...way, way too hot. The water should feel almost cool to you (or get a thermometer to check the temp - you don't want it over 90. 80-85 is probably fine).

    That's not true whatsoever. Our internal body temp is 98F if your extremities are that warm there is probably something wrong. Plus you don't know how warm the room the person is in is, if it's cool the water will feel warmer. You don't know how good the circulation in their hands is either. Mine are always cold for example, usually about 10F lower than other people (Yes I have checked, I'm weird).

    By your logic you would have to ingest the water and see if it feels warm in your stomach. As you said at the end, thermometer is the best way to check.

    Please don't tell people their surface temp is 98F, it's just silly.
  • 05-14-2013, 03:23 PM
    Newbie Ball
    No mites, on the snake, or any the vet can see. He said to use white paper as bedding, to see if I can spot any jumping off, or dead mites. I'll do that for a week.

    Also, I think I just used normal mineral oil. The vet said to use a little bit of dash soap with warm water next time I see mites.
    But i'm getting PAM, or some other kind of mite killer. but I'm leading toward PAM.

    I'll use a temp meter when I soak him.


    Also, question because i don't want to make another thread.

    Should I feed him today? I had him out of his cage for about 3hours taking him to the vet.
    Should i give him 24-48hours? his last feed was on Tuesday.
  • 05-15-2013, 01:45 AM
    TedMeisterSir
    Re: Snake needs help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    Did you use the PAM on the snake?? or on the enclosure. I'd like to know more about this reaction if it was just on the cage... If it was on the snake, you sprayed your snake with poison.

    Unfortunately I did :( just a fair warning. The idiots at my local reptile store said it was okay and they did it to all of their infested snakes. BIG MISTAKE, i wish i wouldve known but my bp got better within a week with a shed. so it wasnt too bad...
  • 05-15-2013, 07:52 AM
    Kaorte
    Re: Snake needs help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TedMeisterSir View Post
    Unfortunately I did :( just a fair warning. The idiots at my local reptile store said it was okay and they did it to all of their infested snakes. BIG MISTAKE, i wish i wouldve known but my bp got better within a week with a shed. so it wasnt too bad...

    Man that really sucks.. But in the future, don't take a pet store employees word for it. They OFTEN give misleading information to customers.

    Obviously next time you will trust the instructions on the bottle rather than the instructions of people in a store.

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  • 05-15-2013, 10:23 AM
    FireStorm
    Snake needs help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mackynz View Post
    That's not true whatsoever. Our internal body temp is 98F if your extremities are that warm there is probably something wrong. Plus you don't know how warm the room the person is in is, if it's cool the water will feel warmer. You don't know how good the circulation in their hands is either. Mine are always cold for example, usually about 10F lower than other people (Yes I have checked, I'm weird).

    By your logic you would have to ingest the water and see if it feels warm in your stomach. As you said at the end, thermometer is the best way to check.

    Please don't tell people their surface temp is 98F, it's just silly.

    I think you are missing the point of my advice. Obviously, you know better than to soak your snake in water that is bath water warm. But I don't think it's reasonable to assume that everyone knows that. The point I was trying to make (which it appears I did a poor job of) was that saying "soak your snake in warm water" isn't a very good description. It wouldn't surprise me at all if an inexperienced keeper read that and went with bath water temp water, which is way too hot. The pool I swim in is always 82-85, and it doesn't .necessarily feel warm, but that's a perfectly reasonable temp for a snake (not saying put the snake in the pool, just needed an example).
  • 05-15-2013, 11:41 AM
    mike689
    Reptile relief worked well when one of my balls had mites. I caught it early so it worked quick. Just make sure, whatever you will be using, that you do it correctly because a lot of solutions that people use can be toxic if used incorrectly. Make sure you do your research.
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