other people point of view on this??

Freezing them to euthanize them?! Correct me if I'm wrong, but since reptiles are cold-blooded, wouldn't this be one of the SLOWEST ways to euthanize them?

Ugh, I don't even have words for this kind of person. Anyone who gets into animals for the money is bad news... I'm a huge believer in karma, and I hope it hits this guy HARD. Try to get the rest of his animals away from him. Get his name out there so no one will sell him another one, or buy from him in the future. Call animal control or the humane society on him for the treatment of his animals. I'm certain they could get him on his idea of "humane euthanasia". Although I don't think he even cares if it's humane or not...

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Originally Posted by xFenrir

Freezing them to euthanize them?! Correct me if I'm wrong, but since reptiles are cold-blooded, wouldn't this be one of the SLOWEST ways to euthanize them?

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Their mechanical functions shut down when they're too cold, but unlike warm blooded animals they don't die before freezing. Their nervous system is active while the cell walls burst from the ice forming inside them. The warm-blooded equivalent would be burning alive, where you die from destruction of cells rather than your body 'shutting down'.

Please name this guy so I know who to never deal with or support with my money in any way possible as I am usually at the east coast/mid atlantic shows...

I know it's just me, but frankly I wouldn't throw my worst enemy under the wheels of the BOI bus. Just wash your hands of him and have done. He'll self destruct all on his own in good time.

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Originally Posted by BeccaBurrr

.....throwing snakes in the freezer when they're sick?!? :confusd: I almost cried when I read that. "It's a bad business move" to give somebody else a sick snake so that they can give it proper care!? So instead he just kills it................this guy makes me sick.

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Totally....the guy is a total d-bag. No compassion whatsoever. And yeah, if your like this guy, and wanna involve yourself in some kinda "get rich quick" scheme, DONT do it with something that involves ANIMALS. I feel like spitting on him.

Sounds like a total douchebag. They're rampant in the Ball Python "community". The delusion of getting rich quick opens the floodgates for the masses of morons to pour through. Just an unavoidable side effect of something that appeals to so many different types of people. Spot them quick, belittle them (just for fun), and then avoid them. :D

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Originally Posted by mechnut450

Well I say you guys won't be dealing with him he has to steal his net access from neighbors ( when he can get a signal ) and he does not have texting or other ways to contact people, he mainly a craigslist and fauna type looker ( bot lacks an account on both I think) I will not say that he is just off interstate 95 in Delaware and Balls deep reptiles does not even want to talk with him anymore. ( I became a good friend with Joe the owner lol)
If you know who he is ( joe) then in the last 4 months you met the guy that usually on his but like a tick lol

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I'm not sure I understand why you feel it is appropriate to post the name of a friend who associates/associated with this guy, but not the guy himself. Other friends could potentially try to use Joe as a reference, and now folks who have read this thread might go "But wait, are you THAT guy?!" Either post a BOI, or just keep your distance from the creep. You weren't going to get any advice different from that on this forum.

Just finished reading the whole thread...Of course he's in Delaware.

I don't want to get Joe in trouble if the guys get word he being dis on the forums. Joe is I great guy I have dealt with a lot since I met him. The guy in Question has hinted that he blames Joe for his collection being sick ( now it the entire collection ) Cause Joe had a pair of snakes develop an RI.
The guys( first name is all I know)Jerry. I know he been out buying snakes and just adds them to the collection and try's to get them breeding right away. I would not be surprised if his entire collection is dead with in a month ( sad to sad but the way he acts is how it hitting really fast,)

Nothing to add, but all the different euphemisms for not associating with someone any longer made me chuckle.

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