What would you do, as a buyer, in this situation?

I would have filed a claim and emailed the seller letting him know it was just cautionary. That way it plays off that you trust him to take care of it but PayPal is already involved in the issue.

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I will not be getting a refund. I received a message from the seller saying that his TOS on his website state that he will not ship if the temperatures are below 40 low, which they are this week. I am going to be a man about it and just wait for the snake to be shipped. Really don't know what else to do, short of just having the seller ship the snake next week, or maybe three weeks or so from now, if it does not get warmer, which it probably will not. I am so fed up with everything that I will probably not buy any snakes from anyone who I do not either know personally or who has not been around for at least five years with at least 50 good feedbacks.

Of course, this is going to pull the hypothetical date of shipping out, way beyond the stupid 20 days from the original payment date. I am just shaking my head. And I want to change the "probably" in the previous post to "definitely." I just became a personal loan for someone, without the benefit of interest, I guess. The seller obviously spent my money before I received the snake. I really wish that I had dealt with a larger breeder who did not need to cause their checking or paypal to go into the negative and do this to me.

I implore you to rethink that. Because some of the best people do not have BOI feedback and could be just starting out

While it sucks, you should've read his TOS and should've looked at weather. It's all part of buying online.

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Again, throw the claim and email the seller that it's precautionary. That way PayPal can help, and it won't go into the out of date range to where PayPal can't do anything.

You're giving up, and whining about it at this point. You have resources at your disposal, use them.

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I don't see anything wrong with covering your butt. Better paranoid for nothing than trusting then getting screwed over.

I am fighting this. I demanded my refund now. Seller said that he has the money and did not spend it, but won't refund because of the TOS that I say were not on the Kingsnake ad that I replied to, anyway. I was offered a refund, then received a stall tactic before said refund, and now am getting rejection instead of a refund. If the guy would just refund My money now, as we agreed to yesterday (well, okay, by Wednesday, since he did spend my money and then went back and said that he does have the funds) this could all be fine.

Thanks for your post, Kodeih. It makes perfect sense. I am not giving up now. :) Paypal dispute has been filed.

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Originally Posted by Kodieh

I would have filed a claim and emailed the seller letting him know it was just cautionary. That way it plays off that you trust him to take care of it but PayPal is already involved in the issue.

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This. As long as there's no unwarranted negative impact on my business, I don't see why I wouldn't understand a buyer taking precautions to protect themselves in light of extraneous circumstances, were I the seller. In all honesty, even without malice a return could go unfulfilled due to grief or legal complications surrounding a death. It happens.

"Hey [seller], I just wanted to give you a heads up that I filed a claim through pay pal. I'm not implying anything about the legitimacy of your business or the moral fabric of your character. I'm just more comfortable putting the return "on the record," so to speak, to protect myself. I mean you no disrespect by it, and in fact really appreciate that you proactively reached out to me with options for moving forward. Though I chose not to pursue this sale, I'd still be open to purchasing individuals from you in the future. Thank you for your understanding, and I'm very sorry for your loss."

Establish a reasonable timeline (most funerals happen within a week or so) for the return that you and the seller can agree on, and pursue a dispute/BOI if the seller doesn't abide by that (written!) agreement.

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Originally Posted by 3skulls

I bet the funeral home even has a computer he could use.

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In the middle of a funeral you're suggesting this guy ask the funeral home if he could use their computer to refund some incredibly impatient chick who bought a snake from him and is now in such a frigging rush she can't wait a few days???


This has all transpired in like 36 hours...I just gotta ask...What is the big freaking rush?