Spider or stinger bee?

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Originally Posted by STjepkes

Yes, you're exactly right, OP. And that is one pretty girl you've got yourself there!

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Oh wow, just noticed you're in Marysville! I used to work at the outlets there. I'm just down in the South Everett/Lynnwood Area. :D

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That's funny, I work just a couple miles from the outlets, for the tribe.

And thank you, here is a pic of the mojo in question. He's definitely ready to go, just waiting on my girl
http://imageshack.com/a/img39/4263/u5ae.jpg

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Originally Posted by MasonC2K

So I literally held a stinger bee in my hands yesterday to pretty much looked just like the OP's picture. So I am going with that.

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The only thing that is making me think she may not have enchi in her is examples of stinger bees like Royal Hijinxs' (they posted a picture further up). She doesn't have that two toned, pixelated look that I've seen with a bunch of stingers and of course enchis. But I've also seen enough stingers that look just like her to give me hope.

A little update.
A local breeder came over this weekend (she was bringing my new vanilla female to me) and I showed her my collection.
I showed her this spider and said I've been wondering if there was another gene in her. Her immediate response was 100% normal spider no doubt. Put a little damper on me BUT I still feel this girl is something extra special.
She had a little growth spurt, blew right past the 1000g stand still. Pic was taken at night time so she looks pretty dull and dark

http://imageshack.com/a/img19/5281/6pop.jpg

I definitely do not see enchi in your spider, but perhaps at the very least she has a reduced pattern gene in her :gj:. She doesn't look like a typical stingerbee to me.

Here are a few shots of mine.
http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...f57488285c.jpg
http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...eb12217f36.jpg
http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...0847d12da2.jpg

Here's how he looks as he's just starting the shed cycle. He gets very dark!
http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...a8aaec7063.jpg

I don't mean to damper your spirits any further. I wouldn't let the lack of enchi disappoint you in the least :gj:! That mojo boy is SMOKIN, and he's going to make some hot babies with your reduced spider! Can't wait to see those babies :bow:!!

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Originally Posted by h00blah

I definitely do not see enchi in your spider, but perhaps at the very least she has a reduced pattern gene in her :gj:. She doesn't look like a typical stingerbee to me.

Here are a few shots of mine.
http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...f57488285c.jpg
http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...eb12217f36.jpg
http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...0847d12da2.jpg

Here's how he looks as he's just starting the shed cycle. He gets very dark!
http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...a8aaec7063.jpg

I don't mean to damper your spirits any further. I wouldn't let the lack of enchi disappoint you in the least :gj:! That mojo boy is SMOKIN, and he's going to make some hot babies with your reduced spider! Can't wait to see those babies :bow:!!

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Yeah when I see stingers like yours I'm like NO WAY does she have enchi in her. But then I've seen just as many photos of stingers that look more like her than anything and that's the little hope I've been holding onto. My opinion over the last couple months has switched to about 90% she's a normal reduced spider. I wish I could post the photos of the stingers that look like her but I don't have any of the owners permission.
Thanks =) I love my little mojo and he is the biggest sweetheart out of all my balls

Yeah, it's looking reduced spider to me as well, but she's still awesome. In a way it's better. Would you rather have a questionable quality 2 gene animal, or a single gene animal that's such high quality it makes you question it?

My pastel looks better than some pastel yellow bellies (crazy flames, orange-ish blushing, wonked out pattern), but I'm fairly certain she is not YB. She is a pretty great pastel though. And that will go further in the long run than a run of the mill 2 gene, in my opinion.

Oh and that mojo has amazing contrast, really love him! :)

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Originally Posted by STjepkes

Yeah, it's looking reduced spider to me as well, but she's still awesome. In a way it's better. Would you rather have a questionable quality 2 gene animal, or a single gene animal that's such high quality it makes you question it?

My pastel looks better than some pastel yellow bellies (crazy flames, orange-ish blushing, wonked out pattern), but I'm fairly certain she is not YB. She is a pretty great pastel though. And that will go further in the long run than a run of the mill 2 gene, in my opinion.

Oh and that mojo has amazing contrast, really love him! :)

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Very true and an awesome way of looking at it! Thank you

Of course, it's my pleasure :)

Took these pictures last night. One with flash and one without. Her actual color is right in the middle between the two.
I was going to breed her this season but once she hit 1200g she decided to suddenly become a picky eater and has stuck at that weight for a couple months now.
Anyone that doesn't want to read the thread, I am now in the mind set that she is a "normal" spider. I'm hoping she is just a single gene, so that I can produce some top notch "normal" babies from her.
I've recently had several people say she looks like a leopard spider, but personally don't see it. Only the broken pattern and color reminds me of one. But the pattern doesn't scream it, and I've noticed (dunno if this is true for all or most) but they don't seem to have white sides.


Oh and let me reiterate that her pattern is a chocolate brown, and is in no way black
http://imageshack.com/a/img833/7753/jm3s.jpg

The head-stamp is definately that of a fire, probably a spider with a rlly cool pattern