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Originally Posted by 771subliminal

A bp slithering over a branch in your cage thats a foot or so high doesnt count as climbing. Thats more along the lines of them "steping" over a fallen branch in the wild. They are not found in the tree tops like green tree pythons or boomslangs.

Also birds are caught and killed on the ground all the time not just in the trees.

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But see, now after being refuted, your reevaluating your condition. You said climbing, which in the common sense is not being on the ground.

Sure, birds are killed on the ground, but it's a higher chance they're in tree's than on the ground.

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Originally Posted by Rob

You have to remember every bp is going to be a little different, some think they are corn snakes and some are pet rocks. I would say by and large once bps's get a little wight on them their interest in climbing around branches is nil.

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I suppose that's true, but at that point I'm sure the larger ground prey is also more easily eaten and they also have less of a need to go up a tree.

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Originally Posted by hypnotixdmp

Just because they eat birds doesn't mean they have to climb to do so or that that one specific snake actually climbs a tree every time it's hungry. I am sure it happens a lot and I have seen them climb myself, but I think that was due to moving into a new home and still getting used to it. After they got used to their new homes they would hide in their hides on cool/warm sides and nothing more other than coming to get some water or eat or poop.

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I'm not sure what you're going for. You agree that they climb, but then try to refute me by saying they only do it once or so in their life? I'm speaking in the wild, more so than captivity.

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Originally Posted by Kodieh

But see, now after being refuted, your reevaluating your condition. You said climbing, which in the common sense is not being on the ground.

Sure, birds are killed on the ground, but it's a higher chance they're in tree's than on the ground.

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I stand by what I said to start with, bps are not climbing snakes. You claimed that yours climb because you saw it on a little branch in its tank. I say thats not climbing, thats the eqivilent of them steping over something in their way.

Would you say that your dog is a great climber if you saw him jump up on the trunk of a fallen tree? Not likely, nor does a bp slithering up on a little branch a few inches off the bottom of its tank.

If you were to go to africa and look for bps where would you look inside small holes in the ground or up in the trees?

And I'm not sure about the birds in your area but I see thousands of birds in fields, in yards, and parking lots all the time walking on the ground. My neighbors cat brings home dead birds all the time that it caught in a field. The cat is declawed so I can promise you that they were not caught in the trees.

Semantics. I think the argument is that BPs are not arboreal, not that they do not climb. BPs DO climb, they are NOT arboreal.


I can climb trees, but I am not arboreal. I can swim but I am not aquatic.
As already mentioned there are quite a few species of birds who spend the majority of their time on the ground. Presence of wings does not indicate a greater likelihood of being found in trees.
Likewise, Polar bears do not have fins or gills, but they are a marine mammal.

But I'm certain there are lots of other threads one could look up where this has already been discussed, so as not to further detract form the original purpose of this thread.

This seems to be getting out of hand

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Originally Posted by 771subliminal

I stand by what I said to start with, bps are not climbing snakes. You claimed that yours climb because you saw it on a little branch in its tank. I say thats not climbing, thats the eqivilent of them steping over something in their way.

Would you say that your dog is a great climber if you saw him jump up on the trunk of a fallen tree? Not likely, nor does a bp slithering up on a little branch a few inches off the bottom of its tank.

If you were to go to africa and look for bps where would you look inside small holes in the ground or up in the trees?

And I'm not sure about the birds in your area but I see thousands of birds in fields, in yards, and parking lots all the time walking on the ground. My neighbors cat brings home dead birds all the time that it caught in a field. The cat is declawed so I can promise you that they were not caught in the trees.

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You're further splitting the hair from your original statement. As mentioned above this post, and perhaps a better explanation of what I mean, is the difference between climbing and being arboreal.

Anyway, your still stuck on captive snakes and your local environment.

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Polar bears are a marine animal! I thought they were land mammals :( can I rename them White Sea bears?

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Originally Posted by carlson

Polar bears are a marine animal! I thought they were land mammals :( can I rename them White Sea bears?

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Yes.
From now on, they are white sea bears.

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Originally Posted by Bobbafett

Yes.
From now on, they are white sea bears.

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