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  • 05-14-2004, 04:13 PM
    gozetec02
    Oh she had those shelvs thats the stuff she had on them and then the walls got torn up.
  • 05-14-2004, 04:23 PM
    gozetec02
    They have a tool that you can use called a stud finder. Thay have fancy ones that are like 60 bux and they have real simple ones that cost around 3 bux. What you do is run the stud finder just above the base board and the finder will either beep or indicate in some other way that you have found a nail. Then with a level Draw a line up the wall and this is where a stud is. Depending on how old the building is depends on the spacing. If your building is very, very old the stud spacing is 20" on center. If your building is less then 40 years old the spacing is 16" on center. You need to use at least a 1.75" coarse thread dry wall screw the longer the better i say 2" is good. If you do not screw into the studs what will happen is that the dry wall will crack and the shelves will fall off the wall tracks screws and all. Maybe i will install some this weekend and i will do a how to post.
  • 05-14-2004, 08:33 PM
    tuffy110
    It's not that I can't find the studs, it's that nothing will go into them. I am not unfamiliar with tools, but nothing will go into these studs. I have tried drilling and the drill just stops, and this is the same drill that did just fine when I drilled into the concrete outside to put some lights up.
    When I mentioned I hung up light stuff only, I meant just that, cause I used small nails to hang up some pictures, and these are in the drywall. I have been using butterflies to hold some things in, but they make a big hole, and I am in an apartment, so I can't damage the walls too much.

    I have lived in three different apartments and all the walls are like this. No one else here I have talked to has tried to hang anything other than pictures, so no one else has this problem.
  • 05-14-2004, 08:54 PM
    gozetec02
    future plans...need help
    A wood drill bit and a concrete drill bit are different. You dont need a drill bit just screws. But i do understand about apartments i live in an apartment too. I just used a wooden utility shelf and it worked fine. They do sell the kind that hold up fish tanks but these are really expensive. A snake tank does not weigh as much as a fish tank so the heavy duty stand isnt required.
  • 05-14-2004, 10:27 PM
    tuffy110
    Ok first of all, I know the difference between bits. My point was this was not some rinky dink drill, but despite that it was still not able to drill into the stud. I used a metal bit and a wood bit and neither worked. I can't see what the stud is, unless I tear some of the dry wall away which I am not willing to do.
    Second, I was thinking about getting the heavy duty shelves for all my tanks not just the snake tank. I have a 30 gallon tall for my white's tree frog that weighs alot, it has rocks in the bottom. I have a 10 gallon with my green tree frog, but he will later need a 20 tall. I have a 20 long for my gecko with an enomous light, a 10 gallon for my firebelly toads, and they will need a 20 gallon, a 51/2 gallon for my tarantula and a 10 (later a 30 long) gallon for my snake. So, heavy duty is a must.
    Is marla talking about the closet shelving or the actual rack book shelves?
    I am thinking about the book shelf ones. For that one I intend on propping the front legs slightly, to make it tilt ever so slightly against the wall, that way it does not fall forward with weight.
  • 05-14-2004, 11:09 PM
    Marla
    I'm talking about the run where you mount runners on the wall that brackets attach into and the shelf sits on top of the brackets. I made the mistake (discussed with Damien before) of mounting them on a wall without mounting into studs, and they ended up tearing up the wall when the weight got too much for the sheetrock. If you're in an apartment maybe you should think about using utility shelving that you can take with you when you move instead of wall mounting. It might be a good option and they're usually adjustable too.
  • 05-15-2004, 12:29 AM
    tuffy110
    That's what I was planning on getting, the utility shelves. When he was talking about putting nails in the wall, I thought he meant for reinforcement, didn't realize we were talking about 2 different things.
  • 05-15-2004, 08:40 AM
    Marla
    Then no sweat. :)
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