Quarantine

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Originally Posted by OsirisRa32

Surprisingly HIV is an incredibly easily killed virus. Speaking directly to methods/modes of infection...its also a relatively hard virus to be infected by.

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most all infections are by way of the sperm.

mostly either male to male or male to female, only a very small percentage is transmitted from female to female or female to male...

what a sad world we live in.......

Harry

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Originally Posted by captainjack0000

What about animals that aren't in the same family. Both boas and pythons are Boidae.

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No pythons are Pythonidae. Boas are Boidae. Different families pythons are egg layers and boas live bearers. Unrelated until you get to suborder they are both serpents.


Ibd testing is 100$ at the lab getting the sample to the lab will vary. There are very rigid criteria that must be followed for the sample preparation. It is likely best to have a vet do the prep work.


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Eryx Jayakari and Eryx Muelleri all lay eggs. They are in the family boidae.

All it takes it to get lax with your QT procedures one time and it's all over. The way people shuffle snakes around and the way imports are just flipped into the general population runs the risk factor with some species straight through the roof.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Eryx Jayakari and Eryx Muelleri all lay eggs. They are in the family boidae.

All it takes it to get lax with your QT procedures one time and it's all over. The way people shuffle snakes around and the way imports are just flipped into the general population runs the risk factor with some species straight through the roof.

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How much does QT really prevent the spread of IBD to your collection? I mean I have read it can stay dormant for more than a year. So even with the most strict of QT procedures there's still a good chance of it getting into your collection.

I didn't know the sand boas laid eggs my mistake. It still does not make pythons boas however :)


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Both boas and pythons are Boidae

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I feel dumb as I should know this is not true.

I guess I thought they were both Boidae because I've heard people refer to both pythons and boas as "boids".
I guess they were wrong too.

Wikipedia says

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Pythons are sometimes classified as a subfamily of Boidae, the Pythoninae, but are in this case listed under their own family, the Pythonidae. In the same way, the Old World sand boas, the Erycinae, are also frequently listed under their own family, the Erycidae.

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So maybe at some point Boids did refer to both pythons and boas....

Classifications vary greatly and are constantly changing so no issues. It is a common. Good quarantine will stop the spread of diseases from entering into the collection the issue is what is good quarantine?

Sadly the answer is easy, and a catch 22, it is procedures that stops diseases from spreading to anything else.

The reason why I would suggest IBD testing and now that it is available, retorvirus testing. This allows the shortening of the time line. If the two tests are done and negative the time line for quarantine could safely be reduced. As it stands it should be longer than the a symptomatic period of the possible disorders (24 months maybe longer)

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Originally Posted by kitedemon

I didn't know the sand boas laid eggs my mistake. It still does not make pythons boas however :)


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No it doesn't.

The differences between pythons and boas are generally:

(1) With one exception, boas do not have a supra-orbital bone. ALL pythons have this bone.

(2) Not all boas have labial pits and if they do, they are located between the labial scales. Pythons, on the other hand, have theirs centered on the labial scales.

(3) The premaxilla (an area of the jaw) for all boas are without teeth, while the premaxilla of most pythons are toothed.

As for laying eggs, remember, some of the sand boas are oviparous - the muelleri (West African Sand boa) and the jayakari (Arabian Sand Boa). Granted these eggs are laid very late in the developmental stage, they are laid nonetheless..........and there are other egg laying boas (Xenophidion).

With regards to classification by geographical disbursement: Candoia are boas and do not live in the Americas.

Likewise, there is a new world python.