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  • 10-14-2012, 03:30 PM
    MS2
    I don't know if incubation extremes would cause it or not, but that's what alot of people point to when there's color/pattern abnormalities.

    I hope you do have something else going on. That would be awesome. Like you said, grow them and breed them. The only way to tell.

    Here is a baby from 2010. A lot of people said incubation extremes caused it.

    http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...4_0566copy.jpg
    http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...18/tn1copy.jpg
  • 10-14-2012, 05:30 PM
    angeluscorpion
    Re: Are Lemon Blasts supposed to look like this? (Waring Pic Heavy)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MS2 View Post
    I don't know if incubation extremes would cause it or not, but that's what alot of people point to when there's color/pattern abnormalities.

    I hope you do have something else going on. That would be awesome. Like you said, grow them and breed them. The only way to tell.

    Here is a baby from 2010. A lot of people said incubation extremes caused it.

    http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...4_0566copy.jpg
    http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...18/tn1copy.jpg

    What became of that one?
  • 10-14-2012, 06:21 PM
    Solarsoldier001
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angeluscorpion View Post
    What became of that one?

    I don't believe it survived. I remember reading that thread when it came out. And I am pretty sure it didn make it


    Sent from iPhone using tapatalk :)
  • 10-14-2012, 06:36 PM
    irishanaconda
    Id agree the breeder male pin has a busy pattern, like a granite pin. Pastel just looks like a pastel to me, but the one pastel that came out in the egg looks pretty dang crazy. Do u know the linage of the parents at all? Id also agree on the temps thing too, ill try to find a pic of a baby that never made it that was a wierd incubation issue

    - - - Updated - - -

    http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...s/DSC01063.jpg
  • 10-14-2012, 08:18 PM
    angeluscorpion
    The pin I found in a reptile store around Bueana Park, he was just sitting in a tank and I guess no one wanted him because he only had one eye. Apparently he was someone's pet at one point but they sold him to the pet store. I though he was really cool looking, really light and a cool pattern, plus his missing eye just kinda fit him. I asked to see him and saw that he had a RI but I have fixed those before so that wasn't a big deal and with a price of 100.00 he was well worth the extra attention. The pastel is a long time resident of a local reptile store, as they tell the story she just say there and no one ever wanted her so they just decided to keep her. So for at least a year or two she has lived in an enclosure with an albino male and a normal female. The funny thing is they all avoided each other. So I convinced the owners to let me breed my pin to her and these little guys were the result.
  • 10-15-2012, 12:34 PM
    MS2
    Re: Are Lemon Blasts supposed to look like this? (Waring Pic Heavy)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angeluscorpion View Post
    What became of that one?

    He made it about a year before he died. Out of 7 eggs, he was the only one to go full term. The rest started dying off at about 1 egg a week. He definitly wasn't right. He had to be assist fed and had some bizarre behavior. He acted like he had some extreme Spider wobble.

    I was tring to see if the reduced pattern was genetic or not. I only got one clutch this year and I think they came out more reduced than most.
    Pastave female:
    http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...pse9b7638b.jpg
    Pastave male:
    http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...pscbce4468.jpg
    Mojave male:
    http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6114141e.jpg
  • 10-15-2012, 02:39 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Are Lemon Blasts supposed to look like this? (Waring Pic Heavy)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angeluscorpion View Post
    The pin I found in a reptile store around Bueana Park, he was just sitting in a tank and I guess no one wanted him because he only had one eye. Apparently he was someone's pet at one point but they sold him to the pet store. I though he was really cool looking, really light and a cool pattern, plus his missing eye just kinda fit him.

    This is interesting. Was the missing eye a birth defect or an injury? If it was a defect, could it have been the result of an incubation issue? It would be interesting if it had been an incubation issue to understand if the defect went deeper then physical attributes of the individual and became something heritable in the pattern. Just thinking out loud.
  • 10-15-2012, 05:43 PM
    angeluscorpion
    Re: Are Lemon Blasts supposed to look like this? (Waring Pic Heavy)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MS2 View Post
    He made it about a year before he died. Out of 7 eggs, he was the only one to go full term. The rest started dying off at about 1 egg a week. He definitly wasn't right. He had to be assist fed and had some bizarre behavior. He acted like he had some extreme Spider wobble.

    I was tring to see if the reduced pattern was genetic or not. I only got one clutch this year and I think they came out more reduced than most.
    Pastave female:
    http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...pse9b7638b.jpg
    Pastave male:
    http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...pscbce4468.jpg
    Mojave male:
    http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6114141e.jpg

    That sucks, Im sorry for your loss but you have some awesome looking pastaves. That female is beautiful!
  • 10-15-2012, 06:15 PM
    angeluscorpion
    Re: Are Lemon Blasts supposed to look like this? (Waring Pic Heavy)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rlditmars View Post
    This is interesting. Was the missing eye a birth defect or an injury? If it was a defect, could it have been the result of an incubation issue? It would be interesting if it had been an incubation issue to understand if the defect went deeper then physical attributes of the individual and became something heritable in the pattern. Just thinking out loud.

    When I bought him I asked about it and they didn't know. Their answer was " I don't know, he came in here that way". I can't tell if it's a scar or a birth defect, I'm leaning toward scar because it's not seamless, there is a hole that you can kinda see something inside and it pulls his lip up a little.
  • 10-16-2012, 06:59 AM
    angeluscorpion
    Sorry if these pics aren't great I just remembered I had them on my phone.

    Here is another pic of the mother and father:
    http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...-08-51_289.jpg

    Another:
    http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...9-39-49_52.jpg

    Good pattern shot and pastel deep in shed:
    http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...-36-10_327.jpg

    Some more pattern:
    http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...-33-43_661.jpg

    Another view:
    http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...-18-20_976.jpg

    Pattern shot the day I bought him:
    http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...-26-07_125.jpg
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