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Morph ID??? Please Help

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  • 10-08-2012, 12:15 PM
    rabernet
    There's nothing about those two that would compel me to breed them together.

    Get the girl to good weight, then selectively breed her to a mutation that she would compliment.

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  • 10-08-2012, 12:41 PM
    dr del
    Re: Just a Normal??
    Hi,

    Well most colour changes in ball pythons we understand are caused by hormonal changes.

    Those can be caused by breeding, stress, illness and a whole host of reasons we know nothing about. :rolleyes:


    dr del
  • 10-08-2012, 12:54 PM
    BWyant
    Re: Just a Normal??
    The way the male's pattern comes together to form those brown blocks instead of separating is pretty cool.

    If I was going to do anything with this particular group, I'd see if I could get babies to inherit that big block pattern.
  • 10-08-2012, 10:35 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Odd Ball Pythons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by earthdragons737 View Post
    I bought these two to Ball pythons from a girl on craigslist. She was selling them as a pair of pastels. I told her they were not pastels but they look like something is different about them. I am breeding them back together this breeding season. I was told they are not related but they look like they are considering they have the same pattern and coloration. Does anyone have any idea what they are?

    Male:
    http://picpaste.com/male_4-JZkRp8HL.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/male_3-Z7e64CZU.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/male_2-eiiI7dMs.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/male_1-nXbq0I0G.JPG

    Female:
    http://picpaste.com/female_3-eut6qYl3.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/female_2-3iKeA1pP.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/female_1-e4e8MW3M.JPG

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by earthdragons737 View Post
    I got a pair of "normal ball pythons" from a lady on craigslist. She was selling them as pastels because the owner of her local pet shop said she had never seen anything like them and said they resembled pastels. I would not trust the petshop owner due to her telling the previous owner that if the pair of ball pythons if bred the female will lay 60, yes 60 eggs! But besides that fact they still look different to me. I posted a thread on "what this morph"
    ( http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ID-Please-Help ) about them and people were saying how they were just normals and the discoloration was due to lack for nutrients. When I picked them up they were in great health, Although she was feeding them mice, it was once a week at 5 mice each. Not an approved diet (by me anyway) but still better than what I have seen before. What make me wonder is with alot of research I could not find any pics that look similar to what they look like. Also people were telling me it is not worth breeding them. I would like to get a wider range of opinions on this. I dont want to sound like I think every normal ball python I see is a dinker but these guys are relitivly odd.

    Male:
    http://picpaste.com/male_4-JZkRp8HL.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/male_3-Z7e64CZU.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/male_2-eiiI7dMs.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/male_1-nXbq0I0G.JPG

    Female:
    http://picpaste.com/female_3-eut6qYl3.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/female_2-3iKeA1pP.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/female_1-e4e8MW3M.JPG

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by earthdragons737 View Post
    I got a pair of "normal ball pythons" from a lady on craigslist. She was selling them as pastels because the owner of her local pet shop said she had never seen anything like them and said they resembled pastels. I would not trust the petshop owner due to her telling the previous owner that if the pair of ball pythons if bred the female will lay 60, yes 60 eggs! But besides that fact they still look different to me. I posted a thread on "what this morph"
    ( http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ID-Please-Help ) about them and people were saying how they were just normals and the discoloration was due to lack for nutrients. When I picked them up they were in great health, Although she was feeding them mice, it was once a week at 5 mice each. Not an approved diet (by me anyway) but still better than what I have seen before. What make me wonder is with alot of research I could not find any pics that look similar to what they look like. Also people were telling me it is not worth breeding them. I would like to get a wider range of opinions on this. I dont want to sound like I think every normal ball python I see is a dinker but these guys are relitivly odd.

    Male:
    http://picpaste.com/male_4-JZkRp8HL.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/male_3-Z7e64CZU.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/male_2-eiiI7dMs.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/male_1-nXbq0I0G.JPG

    Female:
    http://picpaste.com/female_3-eut6qYl3.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/female_2-3iKeA1pP.JPG
    http://picpaste.com/female_1-e4e8MW3M.JPG

    In an effort to keep the forum clutter free all 3 threads have now been merged into one. :gj:
  • 10-09-2012, 01:08 AM
    TessadasExotics
    Yeah so basically something caused them to change colors. No one understands how or why, it is a mystery. Over time they will get their normal coloration back.
    :rolleyes:
    Here is a link to other similar cases.
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/-Female-ball-python-color-change-after-shed
  • 10-10-2012, 06:17 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Morph ID??? Please Help
    First - please do not start yet another thread asking the same thing - we've already had a moderator have to merge all three of your threads asking the same thing.

    Second - re-posting the same question is not going to change the fact that these are two normals. You really don't need our approval to breed them together if that's what you want to do.

    You asked for opinions, and most of the opinions are - it's not anything that most of us with some years under our belts haven't seen before - and in most cases, it's believed to be related to their diet.

    If you believe it to be more than that - then breed them together and find out.
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