Black Pastel?

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Originally Posted by Slayzar

Thanks for the heads up! I'll do my due diligence and find out about possible birth defects. I've only ever produced one clutch, so there is a lot to learn and research for me. I do want to make sure this is, in fact, a black pastel as it will affect what morph I invest in next.



Not to contradict you (as I really have no experience with this morph), but how are you able to tell? I have been trying to find how to classify it properly but can't find any traits it doesn't have that other black pastel images, etc demonstrate.

Thanks again for your help guys!

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Here is a link to help

ball-pythons.net/HUNTER-GUIDE-TO-THE-MORPHS-Cinnamons-and-Black-Pastels

Black Pastel on the left and Cinni on the right.
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...1/100_3627.jpg

Black Pastel...... The best looking line.... Liesen Line Black Pastel.
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...1/100_1180.jpg

The second one in question here looks less like a Black Pastel than the OP's. I'm seeing normal. Here is a good link.... 12 pics. Some pics seem low quality I must admit. 1, 6, 7, 8 and 12 are the best I see in the link-

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/black-pastel/

I just picked this guy up from Colin Weaver. He's 100% Het Pied, but that by no means changes how he, or any other Black Pastel looks. Those oblong body markers seem to be present on every Black Pastel I've seen. The "eye liner" going straight through the eye is very dark. Body markers on a Black Pastel are a gold color and some have that black inner ring inside the markings. Dorsal markings generally get lighter as they go back.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...psbc1b1ce1.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps22c5f28a.jpg

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Originally Posted by Mrl249

Was that an app you created those circles with? If so, which one?

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i used windows paint

It definately has some minor black pastel qualities but this one is hard to tell. All morphs have great variations. Ive seen all kinds that dont have all the stereotypical traits of a certain morph but still throw offspring that are textbook characteristic of the morph. Some just come out ugly or have traits showing through of the other parent. So it could be a black pastel, just have to prove it out. Either way, great looking snake. Congrats:D

It does have some squigglies like a black pastel would, but the belly is a dead give away for a normal.

The OP snake is a really dark phase normal. Very nice looking snake imo, just not a BP.
The pattern is typical normal.


This is a BP:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...f/DSC_0698.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...f/DSC_0690.jpg

Thanks again for your input guys, is it possible this could be something else? As shes growing her blacks are getting darker and shes getting a nice orange blushing as well as more speckling in her alien heads. Here are some updated pictures:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/_MG_3796.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/_MG_3799.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/_MG_3806.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/_MG_3813.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/_MG_3815.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/_MG_3816.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/_MG_3818.jpg

These pictures really don't do justice to the colors. Shes got really saturated oranges/reds and deep blacks. Do you guys think its dinker-worthy (crossing my fingers for the sucia pastel :please: haha)?

Anyone have any input on the updated pictures?

Looks like a pretty normal :)

yes im seeing a nice normal to...