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New Lesser

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  • 09-19-2012, 10:58 AM
    Cendalla
    Thats a very nice lesser and could well turn out to be a pastel lesser, but like the others have stated, it has to be bred out or its just a lesser. Talk to the breeder and see if there are any chances. I have seen some stellar lessers that were really bright in person but I have no pictures for you to compare. If she turns out to be the single gene you really have yourself great snake. Thats a girl any collection could be proud of!

    My pastel lesser as a baby:

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...0/dsc_0008.jpg

    Same girl about 500 grams bigger:

    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...0/img_1409.jpg
  • 09-19-2012, 01:10 PM
    kylefrost
    It clearly has a Pastel head:)
  • 09-19-2012, 04:19 PM
    randy petruga
    well its sunny and kind of warm so we took her out for some pics . http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/s...psce114c3d.jpg
  • 09-19-2012, 05:59 PM
    don15681
    Re: New Lesser
    was the father a bel or was the breeding to a lesser and a mojave as in 2 males to the female?
  • 09-19-2012, 06:42 PM
    randy petruga
    Re: New Lesser
    dad was a lesser / Mojave mom was a normal
  • 09-19-2012, 06:52 PM
    don15681
    Re: New Lesser
    I read so many posts on hear, " what morph do you think my snake is " it's a normal. I'm sure there was a few others but this is the first one I saw that I can say, I see why he's asking. besides the breeder not saying there was also pastel in the breeding, your snake to me shows the signs that I look for when deciding which ones of my hatchlings are just lessers and which ones are pastel lessers. everyone is going off of the breeding. or what the breeding was suppose to be. I understand you do need to prove it out. forget the color. look at the head. look at the eye stripe. I had lessers with very very blushed heads. but the eye stripe was still dull. pastel will blush the head but it also gives points or jags. everyone that was showing him that their lesser was just as bright as randy's had the dull eye stripe. randy's doesn't. randy I can't say for sure that's a pastel lesser, but I would be feeling pretty good about the chances it is. my pastel lesser has more defined points, but the pastel in this breeding was my best blonde pastel. I still see the points in your snake. I have never seen these jags in a lesser. hopefully yours isn't the first.

    here are 2 pics of a pastel lesser and a lesser. look at the eye stripe. this isn't even the really blushed lesser that I was talking about. randy good luck and in a few years I would like to hear how it turned out. thanks don


    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...18_resized.jpg


    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...e_lesser_1.jpg
  • 09-19-2012, 07:46 PM
    randy petruga
    Thank you Don . I never thought it was any thing less than a Pastel Lesser . And prove it out I will but not to a normal .
  • 09-19-2012, 07:55 PM
    don15681
    Re: New Lesser
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by randy petruga View Post
    Thank you Don . I never thought it was any thing less than a Pastel Lesser . And prove it out I will but not to a normal .

    I agree. breed it to what you want. it will eventually prove out one way or another.
  • 09-19-2012, 11:42 PM
    jason79
    I know generally you must have a morph to produce a morph but where did the first pastel come from? There had to be a first one right it must have come from normals right? It sure looks like a pastel lesser to me but you will have to breed it to prove that.
  • 09-20-2012, 01:59 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jason79 View Post
    I know generally you must have a morph to produce a morph but where did the first pastel come from? There had to be a first one right it must have come from normals right? It sure looks like a pastel lesser to me but you will have to breed it to prove that.

    No. The first pastel came from Africa as an import.. Just like the first Banana. The Ghana ball python breeders and collectors save the craziest looking ones and offer them to their best international customers for top dollar. Then it would have been bred here, proven to be a co-Dom trait, and there ya go.
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