undecided: pied vs. firefly

I think the bottom line is recessive awesome gene vs pretty cool codom combo morph! I think the answer is that if you can decide to never go the recessive route definitively go the codom route. However, if you are like the rest of use who'll eventually need to incorporate the recessive genes you better start adding them now!


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Pieds are awesome but I would not recommend recessives as a first breeding project. I think co-doms will spike your interest right away where the recessive will test your patience and a first timer may get bored quick. I think most first timers need instant gradification! I never said they were "pet status"! I know from my Albino projects that it does take alot of time and patience. A co-dom will give you cool combo morphs your first breeding season! Robin, how many more years did it take Justin to start getting cool Pied combos compared to cool co-dom combos? That is my point!

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Originally Posted by seeya205

Pieds are awesome but I would not recommend recessives as a first breeding project. I think co-doms will spike your interest right away where the recessive will test your patience and a first timer may get bored quick. I think most first timers need instant gradification!

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I'm not a breeder YET, but for my most anticipated pairing this year, I'm hoping for some instant gratification, but I also have a 2 year project, and a longer term goal in mind :gj:. I tried to tie in my instant gratification with my long term project/goal. So hopefully it's step 1 :gj:.

I voted Piebald, that being said I also have a Firefly and love Fire combos...

Pieds are what got me into Ball Pythons in the first place and I absolutly love my 50/50 girl. I think every collection should have a Pied or 2. My 2 cents - As far as visual recessives go, start with females to shorten the process to produce visual offspring.

pieds are much more beautiful in my opinion. but hey thats me. fireflys are cool now but they will fade. pieds have been selling well for many years.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Justin has a shot of producing the first firefly pied this year from Clutch #82 laid on June 20th!

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Can't wait to see what hatches out of that one:please:

Not to jack the thread..

But wouldn't it be a better move to get XXX het pied ?

Or even a breeding pair ?

That would cut the time considerably would it not ?

My vote is pied

ive heard from a friend and saw from the new that there's a certain problem with a pied ball python regarding the feeding and the digestive tract. any opinions about that? im getting paranoid because i seems to me that pied morphs are slow growers and complicated compared to other morphs.. is it true? can anyone enlighten me?

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Originally Posted by milktank

ive heard from a friend and saw from the new that there's a certain problem with a pied ball python regarding the feeding and the digestive tract. any opinions about that? im getting paranoid because i seems to me that pied morphs are slow growers and complicated compared to other morphs.. is it true? can anyone enlighten me?

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Never heard about digestive track issues :confusd:

Some animals are problem feeders regardless of their paint job, some animal are slow grower regardless of their paint job also.

I can tell you that MY pieds, het pieds and now pied combo are eating like horses compare to some other of my animals and usually will take a second serving if offered.

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Originally Posted by milktank

ive heard from a friend and saw from the new that there's a certain problem with a pied ball python regarding the feeding and the digestive tract. any opinions about that? im getting paranoid because i seems to me that pied morphs are slow growers and complicated compared to other morphs.. is it true? can anyone enlighten me?

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I have to agree with Deborah I've never heard of any digestive issue's, I can tell you that my two female's are chow hounds and will feed every time I offer them a meal.