Ball Bids Opinions?

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Originally Posted by stickyalvinroll

it is not a scam if you win, you win simple. but most people dont. it cost money to bid, yes. but would you say the stock market is a scam? would you say the gold rush was a scam? it is just a risk that youll have to take just like in any business. dont hate on it. there has been a lot of different winners with youtube unboxings. all animals look healthy. penny auctions are super hard to win.

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We don't like their business. But whether or not its legit, we are more against the two founders. Please read the original Ballbids thread. They are liars and sneaks. Their lies are unraveled through out the thread as they comment themselves. They disrespect the the hobby, breeders, and the snakes they flip.

And they do not have proper husbandry or quarantine procedures. I wouldn't want to buy from someone who knows nothing about their own animals.

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I seriously spent HOURS reading the other thread about ballbids. If anybody does use that site and actually receives a snake it should be looked at more as a rescue than a legitimate purchase.

Did anyone catch their post on kingsnake before it was taken down? It reeked of desperation as they tried to sell their business model to breeders. They're looking for breeders to drop ship their snakes to the winners on their site, so they don't have to care for and ship the snakes themselves. Smh...

Honestly, if breeders shipped the snakes directly to the winners, rather than the amateurs at Ballbids getting their hands on them, I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it. I still wouldn't support the site or their practices, but it would be better for the animals.

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Originally Posted by JKPCONSTRICTORS

Honestly, if breeders shipped the snakes directly to the winners, rather than the amateurs at Ballbids getting their hands on them, I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it. I still wouldn't support the site or their practices, but it would be better for the animals.

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Ok so just for example purpose here.A person wins one of the auctions for a ivory ball python female for $5.89 ok .Now the "breeder" drop ships it for ballbids to you in there name(ballbids) not his because its a secret of who is supplying them.Now the winner receives the ivory and without learning proper Quarintine practice(since ballbids doesnt know either they cant pass on the info) he puts it in his rack with his other 15 snakes.Then sadly 7 days later his whole ball python collection is dead because come to find out the ivory came from a breeder that has recently found out his collection is infected with IBD.So since the winner had no idea who the snake was coming from but if he did he would have avoided them all together.Who do you blame? Of course ballbids tells him you are SOL because it didnt come from us.Then since you have no clue who the snake came from your just SOL.So is this still ok to buy bids and possibly be this person?

I wouldn't even use ballbids with somebody else's money.

I LOVE this concept.

In theory it is absolutely marvelous

If a 2nd site popped up, ie. morphbidz.com

And was run by a recognized name in the industry. I would happily drop money on bids.

I think .60 is to much for a bid, id be more then happy paying .10-.25.

Its a risk to play no doubt, everyone loses. Except the winner and the seller.

But why not???

Lose 5 auctions in a row and the. Win one, and all of a sudden your even out pretty quick.

Its made clear thats how it works. If icould buy even 50 bids at 10 cents and bid like madman in the last 15 seconds to win an animal for an additional 10 bucks.. Bring it on!!!

While ballbids has some shadiness to it, and a reputation that imo is unrepairable the concept is awesome.

Just my .02

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Ok so just for example purpose here.A person wins one of the auctions for a ivory ball python female for $5.89 ok .Now the "breeder" drop ships it for ballbids to you in there name(ballbids) not his because its a secret of who is supplying them.Now the winner receives the ivory and without learning proper Quarintine practice(since ballbids doesnt know either they cant pass on the info) he puts it in his rack with his other 15 snakes.Then sadly 7 days later his whole ball python collection is dead because come to find out the ivory came from a breeder that has recently found out his collection is infected with IBD.So since the winner had no idea who the snake was coming from but if he did he would have avoided them all together.Who do you blame? Of course ballbids tells him you are SOL because it didnt come from us.Then since you have no clue who the snake came from your just SOL.So is this still ok to buy bids and possibly be this person?

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How is that ball bidz fault?? Besides id hope someone who has a rack already knows what quarantine is.

There has been lots of questions regarding animal well fair, and thats something that is a concern. Howver if it could be set up closer to ebay. Where ball bidz creates and hosts the auction amd then shipping is seperate between buyer an seller. It could work

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Originally Posted by Simplex

How is that ball bidz fault?? Besides id hope someone who has a rack already knows what quarantine is.

There has been lots of questions regarding animal well fair, and thats something that is a concern. Howver if it could be set up closer to ebay. Where ball bidz creates and hosts the auction amd then shipping is seperate between buyer an seller. It could work

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Well its simple.If they buy from the bad guys in the reptile world because none of the good breeders will sell to them because of there scam site.Its there fault because of there shady ways.Oh plus any good breeder will answer any and all questions any new buyer has.So now do you see my example?

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Well its simple.If they buy from the bad guys in the reptile world because none of the good breeders will sell to them because of there scam site.Its there fault because of there shady ways.Oh plus any good breeder will answer any and all questions any new buyer has.So now do you see my example?

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Now I do yes. I would like to see this setup as a facilitator site for auctions. Like an ebay for balls. They make theres from a portion of the bid sales, sellers make theres from the sale and a portion of the bid sales, and the winners get a steal of a deal. Those that dont win, better luck next time.

If done right, by the right people, with the right safegaurds, it could be an awesome venture for all involved.