I need opinions - 2 snakes 1 cage

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Originally Posted by Slim

Looks like the OP got the answer they were looking for. Might be a great time to let this post settle to the bottom of the ocean...

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Yup.

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Originally Posted by Riv

Now skip youre making a lot of great points right now, but I feel that youre coming off a little more abrasive then what this situation calls for.

The battle between those who think that it is okay to keep some snakes together and those who would rather not take the risk is not going to be won here, on a simple basis that it boils down to personal preferance. Not everyone is going to agree, and that is okay. We can present our side, which you effectively did, and beyond that probed for a specific circumstance which I commend. But those who er on the side of caution cant really be faulted for that. They think why work harder when you dont have to, and we are willing to use knowledge and expertise to do what we want successfully regardless. Its simply a different style, and there IS room for both. On a polar subject like this, all we can do is hope for open minds and a plesant debate. Lets not get too riled up here.

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Actually, miss morehouse has quite the reputation for inane, inaccurate and just plain foolish posts. She often puts up so called facts with no more knowledge as to their veracity than trust in the site she got them on, which themselves are often of dubious reliability, or because someone told her it was so.

And it's not a battle. If you notice, neither Craig nor I have ever said you MUST keep them in pairs or trios yet those without the skill to do so have repeatedly said that it is absodamnlutely positively 100% fact that not only shouldn't you, but you can't successfully keep more than one snake in a cage at a time. Those of us who have done it for multiple generations with multiple species get rather tired of knowitall dogooders passing on crappy information as if it were absolute truth, as miss morehouse is wont to do.

No one has to keep them in any certain way, but those who can't often seem to resent those who not only can, but do. Try not to be one of those.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Was I talking to you? I wasn't so kindly stop acting like all my comments have been addressed to you.

Now that you have my attention, please enlighten us as to the size of the snakes, the size of the "tank", how you are going to heat it, the number of hides you are going to use and what your feeding strategy is.

Oh, and while you are at it, explain your quarantine procedure for the second snake you are about to obtain.

You are full of questions - which is good, but you do not have the husbandry skills or the experience to do this, so don't

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Sorry, I just assumed that since I started the thread you were trying to answer my question is all...

The 2 snakes are babies, both of them are no longer than about 16-18" long. The tank I am using (until I get the 100 Gallon I have on layaway) is a 30" long terrarium, my current baby has wayyyyyy more room than needed at the moment. So that answers your tank size question.

As for quarantine, I have a smaller 10 gallon tank I will use until he gets used to this place and I make sure hes not sick or doesn't have any mites, so on and so forth.

Once the 2 are joined in the same tank, I will then have 3-4 hides (there only 2 as of now). The tank is heated with a decent sized UTH that will also soon have a thermostat hooked up to it, and the bedding will be switched from red bard to aspen, I know you didn't ask about that, but I figure I would throw it in as well ;).

Last, but most certainly not least, I am going to be tanking the snakes out, once a week on different days of the week to feed them in their own container that will NEVER be used by the other snake, each one gets their own personal container for feeding. I am thinking, 1 gets fed on Tuesdays and the other gets fed on Fridays, this way there is enough time in between feedings that I can see which snake is the one whom defecated so I know if they are getting blocked up or not.

The tank is huge for baby snakes, its not like I am using a 5Gallon to keep them both in, I think the terrarium could hold like 30-40 gallons of water. which is a good size for now!!!

So your current snake is being kept on an unregulated uth ..?

Yes, and PLEASE don't lecture me on it....I have already had folks tell me on here to get a thermostat, but money has been tight the past couple weeks and will be until next weekend.....so please don't tell me, I do keep an eye on my little one and make sure that he is not getting burned or even to hot. I don't really leave very much so its easy for me to do constantly! But I am getting one next weekend!!! I was told to get a digital thermometer and that didn't cost very much at all so I went ahead and got that...but the thermostat I cant find cheaper than like $30, so if you want to comment on that at all, tell me where I can get one CHEAP!!! lol

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Originally Posted by hypnotixdmp

Sorry, I just assumed that since I started the thread you were trying to answer my question is all...

The 2 snakes are babies, both of them are no longer than about 16-18" long. The tank I am using (until I get the 100 Gallon I have on layaway) is a 30" long terrarium, my current baby has wayyyyyy more room than needed at the moment. So that answers your tank size question.

As for quarantine, I have a smaller 10 gallon tank I will use until he gets used to this place and I make sure hes not sick or doesn't have any mites, so on and so forth.

Once the 2 are joined in the same tank, I will then have 3-4 hides (there only 2 as of now). The tank is heated with a decent sized UTH that will also soon have a thermostat hooked up to it, and the bedding will be switched from red bard to aspen, I know you didn't ask about that, but I figure I would throw it in as well ;).

Last, but most certainly not least, I am going to be tanking the snakes out, once a week on different days of the week to feed them in their own container that will NEVER be used by the other snake, each one gets their own personal container for feeding. I am thinking, 1 gets fed on Tuesdays and the other gets fed on Fridays, this way there is enough time in between feedings that I can see which snake is the one whom defecated so I know if they are getting blocked up or not.

The tank is huge for baby snakes, its not like I am using a 5Gallon to keep them both in, I think the terrarium could hold like 30-40 gallons of water. which is a good size for now!!!

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You need to keep that second snake in quarantine ideally for six months, minimally for three. It needs to be kept in a separate room and you need to use a dedicated set of husbandry tools for it.

My recommendation to you is that you do NOT keep your snakes together.

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Originally Posted by hypnotixdmp

Yes, and PLEASE don't lecture me on it....I have already had folks tell me on here to get a thermostat, but money has been tight the past couple weeks and will be until next weekend.....so please don't tell me, I do keep an eye on my little one and make sure that he is not getting burned or even to hot. I don't really leave very much so its easy for me to do constantly! But I am getting one next weekend!!! I was told to get a digital thermometer and that didn't cost very much at all so I went ahead and got that...but the thermostat I cant find cheaper than like $30, so if you want to comment on that at all, tell me where I can get one CHEAP!!! lol

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You should spend your money a thermostat before a new snake.

And while not ideal at all, but better than unregulated, you could always use a lamp dimmer. I would still recommend a thermostsat asap. And btw, $30 is cheap for a thermostat.

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Thermostat = the most important piece of equipment, and the one you should not skimp on.

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Originally Posted by DrDooLittle

You should spend your money a thermostat before a new snake.

And while not ideal at all, but better than unregulated, you could always use a lamp dimmer. I would still recommend a thermostsat asap. And btw, $30 is cheap for a thermostat.

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X2 agreed!

Are you kidding me? 3-4 weeks is plenty. In ONE months time you can say with 100% certainty that is either does or does not have a URI, or mites and ideally if its been eating well you should have had more than one opperunity to examine its stool for texture and parasites. The only thing you may not know about is an airborn pathogen, and if youre using the same ventilation system throughout your house it MAY still get to your other snake regardless. Six months, thats an insane extreme. If you tell me you quarentine every one of your snakes that way Ill call you a liar.